Thespis
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
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join:2004-08-03
Keller, TX
| reply to rahvin112
Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
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The war in Iraq is 2 billion per day.
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versus 300 billion plus poured into Iraq
By your calculations, we've only been in Iraq 150 days or so... |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
| reply to guitarzan
said by guitarzan  :What's the difference between a bucket of chit and a liberal.? Why the bucket of course  BTW: The United States of America does not start wars, it ENDS them. If all these third world shit hole countries were able to stand up for themselves, America would have no need to be called in to act as world policeman and put the fires out. How old are you 12? if i am, you must be 2. did america end the vietnam war? is the iraq war "ended"? anything going on in darfur, israel, or really anywhere else since 1950 that we've had a positive influence on? maybe korea, but the republican administration has stuffed that in the chit can for the past 6+ years and it's ready to blow.
you, are a moron.
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A man compounded of law and gospel is able to cheat a whole country with his religion and then destroy them under color of law. -Ben Franklin |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to guitarzan
said by guitarzan :Any irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill, were due to Democratic decisions for 40 years, compared to 12 Republican years. 40 years of Democrats Versus 12 years of Republicans, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the Democrats mishandled, misspent more Social security funds than the Republicans, who the Democrats accuse. I'd contend its both parties faults... When you consider that the people on the Hill all have childish mentalities, neither party comes out clean. They both sell out to their own little special interests and friends and both waste money on things like taking trips on our dime, etc. etc. etc. The worst is the stupidity of increasing spending and decreasing taxes... Great way to run up a record deficit (what the last eight years of Republican control have netted the nation financially). Both parties tend to spend money like it is burning a damn hole in their pocket.
Republicans and Democrats... Same shit, different stink.
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Prove it... |
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bmn
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Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 :There's no Social Security Fund or any other special fund. All the money the government collects goes into the same pool for spending. It just happens that the amount of money being collected for social security happens to be more than what is needed to pay for the program, so the balance is spent on other things. Which is essentially the same as taking the money collected and earmarked for the program and spending it elsewhere... My post should have read "OUT of social security funds"...
Either way, the congress has been spending money collected that is suppose to be spent only on social security. The program is where it is because they've dipped into those funds over the years.
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Prove it... |
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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
 ·epix
| reply to jig
What's the difference between a bucket of chit and a liberal.?
Why the bucket of course
BTW: The United States of America does not start wars, it ENDS them. If all these third world shit hole countries were able to stand up for themselves, America would have no need to be called in to act as world policeman and put the fires out.
How old are you 12?
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power. |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA | reply to guitarzan
no, you're a crock full of shit. |
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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA | reply to jig
That's a crock of chit and you're full of it. |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
| reply to guitarzan
said by guitarzan :40 years of Democrats Versus 12 years of Republicans, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the Democrats mishandled, misspent more Social security funds than the Republicans, who the Democrats accuse. yeah, it wasn't the various wars the republicans started in those 40 years that drained more from the national budget than any other group or collection of programs the democrats supported, creating the situation where money, what little could be squeezed from the budget, had to come from somewhere to feed the poor, educate the masses, and provide for every other basic national (not international) need.
what a crock of bull. the repubs spend all the money, run up the debt, then blame the demos in between wars for raising taxes, paying off the debt, and funding necessary programs for national health. who are the spenders? the demos just clean up the messes the republican enron backers make.
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A man compounded of law and gospel is able to cheat a whole country with his religion and then destroy them under color of law. -Ben Franklin |
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guest77
| reply to jig
What in the world are you talking about. The simple fact that it has a totally seperate payroll deduction is proof it is supposed to be a self-contained system. |
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dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | reply to DSLTech
Yes, politics are involved- but for all the claims of the Big Bad Corporation doing Evil, there don't seem to be a lot of specific examples related to this story, short of grants to schools. |
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DSLTech
join:2000-12-30
San Jose, CA
| reply to dynodb
Perhaps you should put down your Economics 101 book?
While life could be as black and white as you portray, only a child would actually blindly believe all economic situations necessarily are simply supply and demand.
There are always politics involved in everything. |
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guitarzan
Premium
join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
·epix
| reply to bmn
said by bmn :The problem is that the Congress has been taking money OUT of the social security fund and dropping little IOUs into the fund for years... Social security has been put into its situation by irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill. Congress does control the run-away spending and rampant tax increases of this Country. However, the Republicans controlled Congress the last 12 years and during those 12 years the American people received 2 tax cuts (I got mine). Prior to Republicans gaining control of Congress, under the liberal tax & spend Clintonista regime, the Democrats held Congress for the past 40 years before 1994.
Any irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill, were due to Democratic decisions for 40 years, compared to 12 Republican years.
40 years of Democrats Versus 12 years of Republicans, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the Democrats mishandled, misspent more Social security funds than the Republicans, who the Democrats accuse.
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Its the Democrats fault. In fact it is the Speaker of House Polosi fault. Everything is the Democrats fault. Everything. Just like Everything was the Republicans Fault when they were in power. |
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MadMANN
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join:2005-08-19
 ·Comcast
| reply to kyramilan
said by kyramilan :Take with a grain of salt. I am not a big Verizon fan (obviously ) but I tend to agree. Any retired worker from any big company can spout off like this. This could just as easily be an article about a disgruntled retired worker from AT&T, Comcast, Qwest, etc etc etc. |
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
| reply to N3OGH
said by N3OGH :said by jig :Earmarks, and bridges to nowhere are costing us more every year than any "war" we're engaged in. For this, I put the blame squarely in Bush 43's court. He had the veto pen for 6 years and didn't have the nuts to use it against his own guys in Congress, so they got just as out of control has the Democrats that came before them. Shame on them for it. The federal transportation budget for the entire nation is 6 billion dollars over 8 years. The war in Iraq is 2 billion per day. Anyone that says transportation spending is more dangerous to our economy than that stupid money pit of a war has their head in a dark smelly spot. The fact is transportation, for every dollar spent creates 3 more in the economy. This money is poured directly into our economy, unlike a foreign war that dumps BILLIONS into a pit from whence it will never be seen again. In addition transportation spending creates infrastructure that benefits our economy more than just about any other spending versus 300 billion plus poured into Iraq with NO return. So don't ever EVER say that war isn't the worst thing that has ever happened to our economy because it IS. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to matrix3D
I hate to break it to you, but the purpose of a company- mom and pop hardware store or large corporation- is to make money.
Verizon makes money providing communication services.
There are other companies that provide those same services.
If Verizon charges too much and/or does a bad job providing those services, they lose customers to the competition.
If they lose customers, they don't make as much money and eventually go broke.
If there's a way to make it simpler for you, I don't know how. I find it ridiculous that people like you believe that every big corporation spends 24 hours a day thinking of new ways how to screw over their customers, the community they live in, their pets and their dead grandparents. Put down your Che Guevera lunchbox and step away. |
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nozzer
join:2004-06-25
Waltham, MA | reply to scrummie02
Actually the UK has jumped from 12th to about 4th in a very short space of time, because of massive price cuts. And DSL is now available to 99.6% of the population. |
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ross
join:2000-08-16 | reply to jig
Hey jig, nice SIG! Great quote! |
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Sr Tech
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join:2003-01-19
New Fairfield, CT
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to T1 Rocky
You have to look on both worlds of telecom.
Marketing pushes what they want, in reality engineering and construction can only work as fast as they can. I know it sounds like the little train that could but it seems Verizon is more concentrated on marketing than actual build out. I can see the frustration when marketing says one thing but operations and engineering actually says "what the f are they thinking". But that is life in the real world of telecom. |
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cableties
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join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to matrix3D
Here's my take:
Employee realizes that he could leave and make money doing same thing on his own, with information he gained while working there. He may have had fellow workers join him, as they felt they could keep more money, doing same thing, and not be divested/laid-off from BA split.
Then he either told too many, p'od upper management or didn't kiss enough butt while there at BA to make great connections (use me as a sub-contractor and I'll throw back some kick). Instead, he was a threat and could undermine BA (VZ).
"If you can't beat them, join em", history says. By competing and complaining, it was clear that you can't stop a large, lobbying, politico-in-the-pocket machine. How he didn't learn.
First clear mistake: NEVER, EVER put your equipment in another (competitors) rack or CO.
p0wn3d. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | reply to footballdude
And what does this have to do with the Ex Verizon guy? |
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