scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
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Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor
that's what common sense would tell you...but anything going against the big bad corporations here will be welcome...
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
| said by scrummie02  :that's what common sense would tell you...but anything going against the big bad corporations here will be welcome... LOL! Most don't have common cent$ on here that I see so far. You're an exception to the rule.
BBR
B*tch about your Broadband through Reports = BBR dotcom!
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T1 Rocky
join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
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What are yall talking about? America is number 13 in the world in terms of broadbrand deployment despite us being a distant number one in terms of wealth. Did you not read the story on dslr 2 days ago about how ma bell was back to Qwest, Verizon and AT&T? Take a look at these lobbyist figures »www.publicintegrity.org/lobby/to···ompanies
And you don't think that the telcos are buying the government? You don't think that those lobbying dollars have any impact on the government allowing AT&T to buy Bell South last week? You don't think those lobbying dollars translate directly into all of those line items on your phone bill that the government "requires" the telcos to collect to maintain their networks? I'm in Texas and just last night on the news a Texas law maker in Austin was under fire for accepting $1000 toilets for his apartment and other gifts from AT&T. So are we to believe that AT&T just wanted to make sure this poor millionaire had crappers that didn't leak?
I totally sympathise with this guy. The big loser here is the American public. And if you think there is competition, then why don't you go down to the city and file for zoning to put fiber into a neighborhood. Look at what has happened to cities who tried to do municipal wireless. I'm amazed that people just say this guy is a bitter competitor. This guy represents thousands and thousands of companies that the telcos have buried over the last 10 years. |
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kyramilan
join:2006-11-26
Pensacola, FL
| T1 Rocky - The Government is for the rich, by the rich, and of the rich. Just now figuring that out?
How about the new morons that took over Congress today? 2 years of Gridlock while Social Security goes down the drain, a few million more illegals cross the border, and more and more people have NO health care.
All Hail the Democrats! Just as crooked as the Republicans. With Republicans, at least you know who they are for. Democrats? I have no clue.  |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
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Oh yeah. It's not like Verizon has a history of suckering state governments and customers out of billions of dollars on the empty promises of wide deployment of broadband services. Oh wait, it does. Nevermind... |
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
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wow two trolls on one go.
if social security fails, it'll be because of the gargantuan war debt run up by the republicans, topped off with the tax cuts.
in any event, with how many grains of salt should we take you?
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footballdude
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join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO
| said by jig :if social security fails, it'll be because of the gargantuan war debt run up by the republicans, topped off with the tax cuts. What does any other spending have to do with social security? It was supposed to be a self sustaining system. Are you admitting it doesn't work and needs money from the general fund to stay alive?
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bmn
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join:2001-03-15
hiatus
| said by footballdude :What does any other spending have to do with social security? It was supposed to be a self sustaining system. Are you admitting it doesn't work and needs money from the general fund to stay alive? The problem is that the Congress has been taking money OUT of the social security fund and dropping little IOUs into the fund for years... Social security has been put into its situation by irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast
| said by bmn :The problem is that the Congress has been taking money OUT of the social security fund and dropping little IOUs into the fund for years... There's no Social Security Fund or any other special fund. All the money the government collects goes into the same pool for spending. It just happens that the amount of money being collected for social security happens to be more than what is needed to pay for the program, so the balance is spent on other things.
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jig
join:2001-01-05
Hacienda Heights, CA
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said by footballdude :What does any other spending have to do with social security? It was supposed to be a self sustaining system. Are you admitting it doesn't work and needs money from the general fund to stay alive? who told you social security was supposed to be a self sustaining system? the endowment has to change with the burden, various scoops have been taken out of it, and debt payment is also a line item in the national budget (though you wouldn't expect a republican to know/care).
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scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
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tax cuts are good...it enables you to have more money to put towards "before tax" benefits...like your retirement.
I know better how to spend/allocate my money than the government does...
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to jig
said by jig :if social security fails, it'll be because of the gargantuan war debt run up by the republicans, topped off with the tax cuts. Wow, and along comes the 3rd troll. That would be you, my friend.
Social security was in trouble LONG before Bush 43 ever became President. In fact, long before Clinton or Bush 41 became President.
When Congress decided to use the money in the Social Security "trust fund" to offset deficit spending, the jig was up. That happened long ago (back in the 70's I believe). So blaming it on "Bush" and his tax cuts is at best, misinformed. At worst it's hyperbole.
Earmarks, and bridges to nowhere are costing us more every year than any "war" we're engaged in. For this, I put the blame squarely in Bush 43's court. He had the veto pen for 6 years and didn't have the nuts to use it against his own guys in Congress, so they got just as out of control has the Democrats that came before them. Shame on them for it.
Now that we have a divided government, the American people can breathe a collective sigh of relief as far as their wallets go.
Bottom line: Government that governs the least governs best. Since the clowns in the legislative branch will be constantly butting heads with the clowns in the executive branch, very little will get done over the next 2 years.
Translation: They're spend less of MY money over then next 2 years. I say good.....
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scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
2 edits | reply to T1 Rocky
being 13th has a little something to do with the vast amounts of land we have to cover to implement broadband. With the UK ranking 12th I believe, I think they have more problems than we do.
Of course companies are going to deploy where they think broadband is profitable, that's why they're a company, they want to make profits and make money, just like most people do.
I would like to see points that make a government run broadband provider a good idea. Most people don't want the NSA or anyone else monitoring their email/web transactions yet want the government to step in and regulate or lay down broadband itself....You "think" your privacy is violated now? Giving the government power to control the backbone of a proposed state run broadband initiative will give them all the more power/ease to "spy on it's citizens".
People would be best served if the government granted low interest SBA loans to people looking to run fiber or deploy broadband to certain areas and let small businesses run the show, not an inefficient broken down government machine...
That being said, do you want to pay to lay down fiber in an area in the sticks where 10 percent of the population care enough of broadband to get it, with even less being able to afford it?
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scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
| reply to N3OGH
very well said.
The GOP has learned their lesson....hopefully.
The only problem with the two sides butting heads is problems that need immediate attention like immigration reform and medical care costs will never get solved. It turns out these issues are very important to most Americans...but since when have the parties been for the people huh?
Yes pork-barreling is a problem and needs to be solved, but it's up to the voters of the state to get them out and let's face it, no one in Alaska is going to vote out Stevens...he brings home tons of money...so does Byrd for that matter.
So until the states that vote these idiots in wise up, we're going to have pork spending to the likes we've never seen continue....now, would you like a side of bacon at dinner tonight?
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N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
·Verizon FIOS
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by scrummie02 :The only problem with the two sides butting heads is problems that need immediate attention like immigration reform and medical care costs will never get solved. They weren't getting solved any way. The "fence" they want to build never got funded (I'm more in favor of mine fields myself, but I digress) and any kind of health care reform will never be seen. Part of the problem with health care costs is illegal immigration. Ever go to a hospital emergency room on any given night? You better bring your English-Spanish dictionary with you, if you plan on making conversation with your fellow patrons. They KNOW the ER can't turn them away, so they go there for things like the common cold and stupid stuff. You and I pay for it in the end.
I totally agree with you. Until people wise up and realize that just because their guy brings home the "bacon" doesn't mean he deserves re election.
Me, I vote my beliefs. I don't care how many $$ you bring to my state.
I sure do hope the GOP did learn their lesson. As it stands today, I don't see much hope for us as a whole the way we're headed. The border is a sieve, it's costing us millions. No one in congress seems to want to do anything.
Everyone in power is just so damn selfish. Of course, so are their constituents, so I guess they're doing a good job as far as they're concerned...
It is sad....
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20 | reply to footballdude
And what does this have to do with the Ex Verizon guy? |
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Sr Tech
Premium
join:2003-01-19
New Fairfield, CT
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to T1 Rocky
You have to look on both worlds of telecom.
Marketing pushes what they want, in reality engineering and construction can only work as fast as they can. I know it sounds like the little train that could but it seems Verizon is more concentrated on marketing than actual build out. I can see the frustration when marketing says one thing but operations and engineering actually says "what the f are they thinking". But that is life in the real world of telecom. |
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ross
join:2000-08-16 | reply to jig
Hey jig, nice SIG! Great quote! |
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nozzer
join:2004-06-25
Waltham, MA | reply to scrummie02
Actually the UK has jumped from 12th to about 4th in a very short space of time, because of massive price cuts. And DSL is now available to 99.6% of the population. |
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rahvin112
join:2002-05-24
Sandy, UT
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said by N3OGH :said by jig :Earmarks, and bridges to nowhere are costing us more every year than any "war" we're engaged in. For this, I put the blame squarely in Bush 43's court. He had the veto pen for 6 years and didn't have the nuts to use it against his own guys in Congress, so they got just as out of control has the Democrats that came before them. Shame on them for it. The federal transportation budget for the entire nation is 6 billion dollars over 8 years. The war in Iraq is 2 billion per day. Anyone that says transportation spending is more dangerous to our economy than that stupid money pit of a war has their head in a dark smelly spot. The fact is transportation, for every dollar spent creates 3 more in the economy. This money is poured directly into our economy, unlike a foreign war that dumps BILLIONS into a pit from whence it will never be seen again. In addition transportation spending creates infrastructure that benefits our economy more than just about any other spending versus 300 billion plus poured into Iraq with NO return. So don't ever EVER say that war isn't the worst thing that has ever happened to our economy because it IS. |
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