footballdude
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| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor said by jig  :if social security fails, it'll be because of the gargantuan war debt run up by the republicans, topped off with the tax cuts. What does any other spending have to do with social security? It was supposed to be a self sustaining system. Are you admitting it doesn't work and needs money from the general fund to stay alive?
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| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor said by footballdude :What does any other spending have to do with social security? It was supposed to be a self sustaining system. Are you admitting it doesn't work and needs money from the general fund to stay alive? The problem is that the Congress has been taking money OUT of the social security fund and dropping little IOUs into the fund for years... Social security has been put into its situation by irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill.
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pnh102
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| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor said by bmn :The problem is that the Congress has been taking money OUT of the social security fund and dropping little IOUs into the fund for years... There's no Social Security Fund or any other special fund. All the money the government collects goes into the same pool for spending. It just happens that the amount of money being collected for social security happens to be more than what is needed to pay for the program, so the balance is spent on other things.
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| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor said by pnh102 :There's no Social Security Fund or any other special fund. All the money the government collects goes into the same pool for spending. It just happens that the amount of money being collected for social security happens to be more than what is needed to pay for the program, so the balance is spent on other things. Which is essentially the same as taking the money collected and earmarked for the program and spending it elsewhere... My post should have read "OUT of social security funds"...
Either way, the congress has been spending money collected that is suppose to be spent only on social security. The program is where it is because they've dipped into those funds over the years.
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guitarzan
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| said by bmn :The problem is that the Congress has been taking money OUT of the social security fund and dropping little IOUs into the fund for years... Social security has been put into its situation by irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill. Congress does control the run-away spending and rampant tax increases of this Country. However, the Republicans controlled Congress the last 12 years and during those 12 years the American people received 2 tax cuts (I got mine). Prior to Republicans gaining control of Congress, under the liberal tax & spend Clintonista regime, the Democrats held Congress for the past 40 years before 1994.
Any irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill, were due to Democratic decisions for 40 years, compared to 12 Republican years.
40 years of Democrats Versus 12 years of Republicans, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the Democrats mishandled, misspent more Social security funds than the Republicans, who the Democrats accuse.
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| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor said by guitarzan :40 years of Democrats Versus 12 years of Republicans, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the Democrats mishandled, misspent more Social security funds than the Republicans, who the Democrats accuse. yeah, it wasn't the various wars the republicans started in those 40 years that drained more from the national budget than any other group or collection of programs the democrats supported, creating the situation where money, what little could be squeezed from the budget, had to come from somewhere to feed the poor, educate the masses, and provide for every other basic national (not international) need.
what a crock of bull. the repubs spend all the money, run up the debt, then blame the demos in between wars for raising taxes, paying off the debt, and funding necessary programs for national health. who are the spenders? the demos just clean up the messes the republican enron backers make.
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA | Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor That's a crock of chit and you're full of it. | |
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guitarzan
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| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor What's the difference between a bucket of chit and a liberal.?
Why the bucket of course 
BTW: The United States of America does not start wars, it ENDS them. If all these third world shit hole countries were able to stand up for themselves, America would have no need to be called in to act as world policeman and put the fires out.
How old are you 12?
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jig
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Hacienda Heights, CA
| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor said by guitarzan :What's the difference between a bucket of chit and a liberal.? Why the bucket of course BTW: The United States of America does not start wars, it ENDS them. If all these third world shit hole countries were able to stand up for themselves, America would have no need to be called in to act as world policeman and put the fires out. How old are you 12? if i am, you must be 2. did america end the vietnam war? is the iraq war "ended"? anything going on in darfur, israel, or really anywhere else since 1950 that we've had a positive influence on? maybe korea, but the republican administration has stuffed that in the chit can for the past 6+ years and it's ready to blow.
you, are a moron.
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| said by guitarzan :Any irresponsible policy making and out of control deficits on the Hill, were due to Democratic decisions for 40 years, compared to 12 Republican years. 40 years of Democrats Versus 12 years of Republicans, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out the Democrats mishandled, misspent more Social security funds than the Republicans, who the Democrats accuse. I'd contend its both parties faults... When you consider that the people on the Hill all have childish mentalities, neither party comes out clean. They both sell out to their own little special interests and friends and both waste money on things like taking trips on our dime, etc. etc. etc. The worst is the stupidity of increasing spending and decreasing taxes... Great way to run up a record deficit (what the last eight years of Republican control have netted the nation financially). Both parties tend to spend money like it is burning a damn hole in their pocket.
Republicans and Democrats... Same shit, different stink.
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jig
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Hacienda Heights, CA
| said by footballdude :What does any other spending have to do with social security? It was supposed to be a self sustaining system. Are you admitting it doesn't work and needs money from the general fund to stay alive? who told you social security was supposed to be a self sustaining system? the endowment has to change with the burden, various scoops have been taken out of it, and debt payment is also a line item in the national budget (though you wouldn't expect a republican to know/care).
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| Re: Disgruntled Ex-Employee and former Competitor What in the world are you talking about. The simple fact that it has a totally seperate payroll deduction is proof it is supposed to be a self-contained system. | |
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