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Markus

join:2005-05-27
Middlesboro, KY

No video broadband for you!

My ISP, Suddenlink, throttles connections back to 1/4 speed if you download more than 30MB in 10 minutes, so apps such as these will remain more or less useless to me.

For those of us unfortunate enough to be stuck with an ISP which employs such draconian bandwidth limiting measures, the brave new world of broadband video is de facto off limits, unless you purchase a business plan with no caps or throttling in place, just so you can enjoy content aimed at the home user.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

said by Markus See Profile :

My ISP, Suddenlink, throttles connections back to 1/4 speed if you download more than 30MB in 10 minutes, so apps such as these will remain more or less useless to me.
There goes the Windows service packs.. The whole idea of broadband is to get the larger files faster..

I can see bandwidth caps based on a monthly basis.. but in day parts.. then the broadband is worthless... yes, even for the casual user.

The bottom line is this: increase the available bandwidth once and for all and quit making excuses. Phone is busy lowering the rates of DSL to obtain more customers from dial up and cable users. They claim that they need to control what's going on at the backbone level.

The way I see it, at the expense of all users, phone is being greedy by under pricing their DSL service to make their numbers look good - because it appears that it's the only way they can get 'em.

If they need money, raise the rates to a level where cable is. $45 a month is NOT unreasonable for a good broadband service. (Anything over 1.5 meg at this point.)

People need to bit the bullet and realize that there is still much investment that needs to be made in the infrastructure of the internet.

If they would simply collect the money, invest into more available bandwidth including routers, switches, etc.. then we don't need to be treating the data transfer like gas prices. Further, these monthly, daily, and hourly bandwidth caps become non-existent.

Why are they doing all this capping at this point? Because they can.
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amungus
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join:2004-11-26
America
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reply to Markus
wow, that has to be the WORST capping I've ever heard of!

...I'd like to see if Cox would mess with 'em...
I'm no heavy downloader, but limiting to 1/4 after such a small amount is absurd...

Least it sounds like this video quality could be quite good!


Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
Premium
join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
reply to fiberguy
So in short, you are saying for the ISP's to provide more capacity, right?

fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
No...

The back bone carriers.

Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
reply to Markus
install any MMORPG from CD/DVD and you would break that 30 megs just patching.
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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join:2001-03-29
The Lou
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reply to fiberguy
A cable company could buy a zillion OC-768's if they wanted to have enough bandwidth for you. The backbone provider has nothing to do with anything capacity related.

Cable companies will just need to open their wallets a little more...and so will you.
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
reply to Markus
a company the size of comcast if they wanted to would just buy the backbone provider itself.
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ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
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reply to Markus
I wonder what they'll do to you once they find your talking smack about them on an online forum

Throttle you back to 56k speeds

Markus

join:2005-05-27
Middlesboro, KY
reply to Kearnstd
I've been throttled many times downloading game patches and the like. Cripes, I got throttled viewing a lot of large images on NASA's website.
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Markus

join:2005-05-27
Middlesboro, KY

reply to ninjatutle
said by ninjatutle See Profile :

I wonder what they'll do to you once they find your talking smack about them on an online forum

Throttle you back to 56k speeds
This is actually something that has crossed my mind, though I'd hate to think the powers-that-be at Suddenlink would be so petty. Who knows, though?

Regardless, I don't consider it talking smack as what I said in my initial post was the straight truth. My Suddenlink broadband connection is only "broad" in small spurts. Look at DSLReport's Suddenlink forum, »Suddenlink, to see some real smack talking.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20

reply to DaSneaky1D
THe cost of providing broadband is largely related to the cost of getting the internet carried from A to B.. ie: the backbone and who's going to carry it.

When the backbone gets congested, the price of using that line becomes more expensive.. Phone has the throughput from the home to the CO.. .get on the cloud and it can be busy.. they need to open up those paths..

There was a user that posted exactly why the cost of the backbone is justified. It's the amount of equipment, the switches, routers, and the lines themselves. If those are upgraded and paid for, then capacity is not an issue and the caps can be higher.

Take a good look at Australia and why they are one country with some of the WORST internet pricing. Maybe that will explain better. They only have so much going from AU to the rest of the world and it comes at a premium.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to Markus
said by Markus See Profile :

My ISP, Suddenlink, throttles connections back to 1/4 speed if you download more than 30MB in 10 minutes, so apps such as these will remain more or less useless to me.

For those of us unfortunate enough to be stuck with an ISP which employs such draconian bandwidth limiting measures, the brave new world of broadband video is de facto off limits, unless you purchase a business plan with no caps or throttling in place, just so you can enjoy content aimed at the home user.
Suddenlink is the old cebridge. that doesn't surprise me one bit they'd FAP you.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
They are also some of the smaller regions of others: Alliance, Tele-Media, Thompson, USA Media, Cox and Charter.

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