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swintec
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100 HD Channels???

I have 18 HD channels from TW right now, and a good portioon of them are useless when it comes to HD content. Is there 100 or even 50 watchable HD channels currently out there???


snipper_cr
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Wheaton, IL

I wounder if it will be quite a few of the usual HD channels and locals with all their secondary broadcasts that count as "HD".

Or could they be counting individual local channels... like 12 from chicago, 12 from NYC, 12 from LA etc?
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GNH
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reply to swintec
Dish currently offers these HD channels, in addition to the major broadcast channels. Several of those listed below are available because of their purchase of Voom.

Showtime HD
Starz HDTV
HBO HD
Animania HD
Family Room HD
GamePlay HD
Discovery HD Theater
Equator HD
National Geographic Channel HD
DISH Network PPV in HD
Film Fest HD
Food Network HD
HDNet Movies
Kung Fu HD
Monsters HD
World Cinema HD
HDNews
Rave HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
NFL Network HD
Rush HD
WorldSport HD
Gallery HD
HDNet
HGTV HD
TNT HD
Treasure HD
Ultra HD
Universal HD



swintec
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reply to swintec
Better yet, are these going to be in "HD-Lite" that the Sat. companies have been offering? I would hope they would use this new found bandwidth and actually offer full blown HD content.



GNH
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Good point. I used to be a DirecTV customer, and really wanted to stay with them, but they didn't offer true HD programming when I switched to Dish. Fact is, DirecTV flat lied to me about their unit, which was only 480p at the time (2003). They tried to tell me it was 1080i. Anyway, I could go on-and-on about that mess...

I wouldn't be surprised if much of DirecTV's stuff is "down-sampled" (HD-Lite) when it's actually deployed.



kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

reply to swintec

said by swintec:

I have 18 HD channels from TW right now, and a good portioon of them are useless when it comes to HD content. Is there 100 or even 50 watchable HD channels currently out there???
It's the very same craptastic PR line they have promised for 2005 and 2006.
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jesseb_66

join:2002-12-06
Tucson, AZ

reply to swintec
I have no idea how that will accomplish this but if they can they will steal me away from any cable provider...



wmcbrine
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Laurel, MD

reply to snipper_cr

said by snipper_cr:

Or could they be counting individual local channels... like 12 from chicago, 12 from NYC, 12 from LA etc?
Without a doubt.


Caddyroger
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To the west

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reply to GNH
Of what listed here i would only watch 4 maybe 5 channel. So for the mean time i will not be switching providers.



wmcbrine
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Laurel, MD

reply to swintec

said by swintec:

Better yet, are these going to be in "HD-Lite" that the Sat. companies have been offering?
All of DirecTV's new HD channels are scheduled to be offered in MPEG-4, to save bandwidth. They may be full resolution, but they'll be recompressed from the MPEG-2 originals. They're doing that now with the HD locals they offer.

The "HD Lite" channels are the nationals, delivered in MPEG-2 but cut to a very low bit rate, with the 1080i channels downrezzed to 1280x1080i. It's likely that the MPEG-4 channels look better than this (I don't know), but I wouldn't call them full quality.


wmcbrine
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Laurel, MD

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reply to GNH
Huh? What "unit" are you talking about?

DirecTV offered true HD for many years. It was only relatively recently that they started "HD Lite"... which still isn't downrezzed all the way to 480p (though sometimes it looks it).



Greg_Z
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join:2001-08-08
Springfield, IL

reply to swintec
Alot are duplicated across the board, due to DTV neglects to state that the 100 or so channels being added are the same networks, but different affiliates.
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tbeckner

join:2004-03-20
Bend, OR

reply to wmcbrine
YES - LOCAL Only channels (ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX from local areas only) via the MPEG4 sats, originally pegged for 2006 but DirecTV never made in 2006 (technical problems? Bad and late HR20 DVR?), so then they announce it for 2007. DirecTV is a bunch of Squirrels, I know I have had them since 1994. SD is okay from DirecTV, HD content and channel choices are slim, but what other choice do they have they can't announce anything else at CES. In fact most of what they announced at the 2005 and 2006 CES never saw the light of day.

DirecTV is all about VAPORWARE!



fireflier
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Limbo

reply to GNH
That list brings to light something interesting:

Where are the HD versions of some of the other "common" networks? Sci-Fi? TBS? FX, Comedy Central, Disney, Spike, Lifetime, US-freaking-A Network???? I see ESPN, TNT, HGTV, Food Network (Food Network is HD and Sci-Fi isn't???), HBO, Discovery, and National Geographic, along with a smattering of others.

So when are some of the other big players getting in on HD? It just seems weird they're not aggressively moving on that.
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swintec
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Hopefully the othe rnetworks are planning a half decent HD channel, rather than what TNT and A&E did. Both of those are pretty much a waste, in that they lack decent programming, A&E rarely offers HD programming as it stands now. I get the sense they were made, just so they could say they in fact have an HD station.



GNH
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reply to wmcbrine

said by wmcbrine:

Huh? What "unit" are you talking about? DirecTV offered true HD for many years. [...]
Their DVR (so called TiVo) unit.


GNH
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reply to wmcbrine
Dish's new satellite uses MPEG-4. Looks great. We have a DVR 622 and 921. The 622 is MPEG4/MPEG2 and it does an excellent job handling the compression. Basically, both of those units are Linux boxes. Our projection unit is 1920x1080 and the picture is stunning ~ especially the digital stuff like the latest "Star Wars."



wmcbrine
213 251 145 96

join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD

reply to GNH

said by GNH:

said by wmcbrine:

Huh? What "unit" are you talking about? DirecTV offered true HD for many years. [...]
Their DVR (so called TiVo) unit.
I have it, and I guarantee you it's not limited to 480p. It defaults to 480p the first time you start it up, sure. You probably just never pressed the up arrow or touched the button on the front panel to change the output resolution.


wmcbrine
213 251 145 96

join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD

reply to tbeckner

said by tbeckner:

YES - LOCAL Only channels (ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX from local areas only) via the MPEG4 sats, originally pegged for 2006 but DirecTV never made in 2006 (technical problems? Bad and late HR20 DVR?), so then they announce it for 2007.
They did deliver a lot of them in 2006 (including my market, though I don't have an MPEG-4 receiver myself). They do it market by market... I don't know if they met their goals for 2006, but there are MPEG-4 HD locals up now in some places.

tbeckner

join:2004-03-20
Bend, OR

said by wmcbrine:

said by tbeckner:

YES - LOCAL Only channels (ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX from local areas only) via the MPEG4 sats, originally pegged for 2006 but DirecTV never made in 2006 (technical problems? Bad and late HR20 DVR?), so then they announce it for 2007.
They did deliver a lot of them in 2006 (including my market, though I don't have an MPEG-4 receiver myself). They do it market by market... I don't know if they met their goals for 2006, but there are MPEG-4 HD locals up now in some places.
What I was pointing out was that DirecTV announced most of these same channels at the 2006 CES but never delivered in 2006, plus they announced their PC tuner and transfer to PC capabilities at 2006 CES and never delivered in 2006. DirecTV appears to announce VAPORWARE, and since some of these channels listed in their announcement do not exist and are not planned by these cable channel networks, how are they going to broadcast them (IE SciFi HD).

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