Re: Difference? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17606351 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:42:17 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:42:17 EDT Re: Difference? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17606812 anon : Wow, you don't remember what it was like (the old TV Guide Interactive), do you?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17606812 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:55:40 EDT Re: Difference? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17606751 bbarrera :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do?
We've got 30 days experience with the Comcast Motorola 6412 dual-tuner and have a love/hate relationship. Great HD picture but the DVR has too many software problems and this unit has the latest software. On the other hand no problems with Tivo after 4 years. Here are a few issues we are experiencing:
- lose sound while playing recordings (both live buffer and recordings) but can be recovered by a quick rewind/fast forward
- fails to record the entire show
- hard drive 21% full (3 hours HDTV), started recording show and within 10 minutes it claimed drive was full and forced us to delete a recording before continuing to use DVR
- small hard drive and currently no way to expand using eSATA, FW or USB ports on back of unit (yes I know about connecting a computer via FW)

This box has been in the market for 2 years, bugs this fundamental should have been worked out by now. And I'm conveniently overlooking how well Tivo works compared to Comcast box (e.g. 'loose power and loose programming guide for 12-24 hours').

We've left our Tivo connected so we don't lose shows that the Comcast box is suppose to record. I guess the apologists can say 'its good enough' but right now the box works like Win98.

While I hope Tivo software on the Motorola 6412 fixes the problem, that remains to be seen as I haven't used Tivo Series 2 dual-tuner or the Series 3. Assuming Tivo Series 3 works well then I give good odds that Tivo on Comcast's Motorola DVR will bring sanity back to our TV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17606751 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 03:21:43 EDT Re: Difference? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17606481 DreamWraith : Yes those too. I almost forgot about them :P.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17606481 Tue, 09 Jan 2007 01:16:21 EDT Re: Difference? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17606351 fiberguy : No.. I think you went into it too far. My point was that it sounded like you were making "tivo" out to be a hero in DVR software.

I was trying to point out that the hardware has much to do with the success of any software that runs on it. Just like the windows operating system. Put XP on some machines and it crashes and looks buggy. Put it on another machine with better hardware and it runs with out a lick of problems.

Personally, I do realize that the software on the moto boxes by iGuide is not the greatest. It works for my use. However, I personally enjoy the guide on my Media Center 2005 systems MUCH better.

Personlly.. I'm not a huge fan of Tivo either. MCE2005 is great as it connects to the internet live for extended data, art, and other information.
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said by BosstonesOwn See Profile :

said by pnh102 See Profile :

Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do?
Work ?
When I had Comcast prior to living in Mount Airy, I never had a problem with the HD and/or DVR service at all. I have the same box with Adelphia and the only problem I currently have is the On-Demand doesn't work correctly. As for the interface, I don't see it being very hard to use... I just press the "Record" button on the programs I want to record and they record.
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As a Comcast customer who once had Dish.. the Comcast iGuide is a really poor ugly interface.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17605246 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:47:04 EDT Re: Difference? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17605207 BosstonesOwn :
said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by DreamWraith See Profile :

Well, as the article suggests, the primary difference is that they will be running TiVO's superior software interface.
Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do?
Work ?
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***Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do?***

Well, aside from an overall easier-to-use interface, and what tends to be a more reliable and robust program listing/description system, you also gain some of tivo's more advances features. What most consider to be tivos "defining" feature is their program suggestions system. The tivo software tracks what you record/watch, and will suggest other programs you might enjoy as well. When you have 300+ channels, this can become very usefull, as there tends to be many programs you would enjoy, but dont ever see/watch, because they are barried in the mass of listings.

hope that helps, pnh102]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17604633 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:19:25 EDT Re: Difference? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17604620 DreamWraith : fiberguy:
perhaps my words were a bit forgiving. next time i will be sure to say "inferior" instead, to be sure to make you happy.

by calling tivo's software superior, it is not to say that this iteration is necessarily going to run perfectly.

It is to suggest that Tivo's software is superior in function, not necessarily form or technicality. Please note I did say tivos superior INTERFACE and not simply superior "software". Interface was the qualifying word here.

Anyone who has used a standalone tivo, or one of the older direct tv tivo's will undoubtedly say that they prefer both the interface and functionality of tivo software over the poorly carried out iguide, or for us in Washington, the buggy, and at times, infuriating Microsoft TV Foundation.

Let us also not forget that the motorola boxes are using a very similar operating platform as the series 3 tivos. They both share the same CPU, the primary differences being in the memory/ram loadout, and accessory packages. The motorola boxes have less memory than a series 3 tivo.

In any case, I am sure you *knew* what I meant when i said superior. But as usual, you thought it in your best interest to drive down to the unlikely interpretation and choose to accept that as the message i was posting.

Your choice i suppose. For everyone else: I am NOT saying that the TIVO software will necessarily have less bugs/run more reliably than iguide/mstv, I am simply stating that, if past experience can be beleived, most people find the tivo interface, and the tivo functionality to be superior to that of iguide/mstv]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17604620 Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:17:49 EDT Re: Difference? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17603763 pnh102 :
said by DreamWraith See Profile :

Well, as the article suggests, the primary difference is that they will be running TiVO's superior software interface.
Hmmm... maybe I was asking the wrong question. Ok... what would the Comcast Tivo box do for me that the current Comcast HD Dual DVR box does not do?
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What if Tivo's software is pushed out to consumers that request it and once on the box, it turns out to be buggier than the current software?
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