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trparky
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Consumer Demand for non-DRM online music?

Obviously they haven't seen this web site.

But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy?


Mchart
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said by trparky:

Obviously they haven't seen this web site.

But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy?
Joe Sixpack doesnt even know how to give said MP3 file to his buddy.


trparky
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said by Mchart:

said by trparky:

Obviously they haven't seen this web site.

But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy?
Joe Sixpack doesnt even know how to give said MP3 file to his buddy.
Man are you cynical.
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Mchart
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join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL

said by trparky:

said by Mchart:

said by trparky:

Obviously they haven't seen this web site.

But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy?
Joe Sixpack doesnt even know how to give said MP3 file to his buddy.
Man are you cynical.
Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online?


SRFireside

join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX

reply to trparky
That's happening regardless of whether or not they use DRM on music downloads. The fact that many legitimate buyers are getting ticked off with the restrictions put on DRM downloads I think the choice is obvious.



GilbertMark
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Gilbert, AZ

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said by Mchart:

Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online?
He's right, the typical computer owner is a moron. Always has been, and usually always will be. It's only those with a brain and who try to learn new things by reading and thinking who get anywhere with a computer. These are the same people who still have a flashing "12:00" on their damn VCR.
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Maxo
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said by GilbertMark:

the typical computer owner is a moron. Always has been, and usually always will be. It's only those with a brain and who try to learn new things by reading and thinking who get anywhere with a computer. These are the same people who still have a flashing "12:00" on their damn VCR.
Yep, non-computer savy people are D-U-M-B dumb.

compton

join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY

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said by trparky:

Obviously they haven't seen this web site.

But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy?
There is very little stopping Joe Sixpack from sharing his mp3 collection now.


Jason Levine
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USA

reply to trparky
Really, nothing. But even with DRMed music, all it takes is one person to crack the DRM and upload the unprotected music to a P2P group. Joe Sixpack might not give it to his friend directly, but his friend would still be able to get a copy.

All DRM does is place a speed bump in the path of the pirates (not a road block like the record companies would like to believe).

Putting DRM on a CD to stop Internet piracy only winds up as a headache for the person who legitimately buys the content and wants to use it in legal manners. (For example, ripping it to MP3 to place on their MP3 player.)



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said by Mchart:

Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online?
But if you change that to americans from 12-18 years of age I bet the numbers are pretty high.
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thender2
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Staten Island, NY

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reply to GilbertMark

said by GilbertMark:

said by Mchart:

Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online?
He's right, the typical computer owner consumer is a moron. Always has been, and usually always will be. It's only those with a brain and who try to learn new things by reading and thinking who get anywhere with a computer. These are the same people who still have a flashing "12:00" on their damn VCR.
Corrected.

They believe a cheap 15 lbs box is a 500 watt receiver. They use composite video to hook up their HDTV. They buy a dell and ejaculate over their cheap pretty LCD and wonder why it dies when their HD goes to 80c because of poor case design. They

There are hobbyists, tweakers, and consumers. You can be all three at once. A consumer with electronics, a tweaker with cars, and a hobbyist for real estate, whatever. But most people are consumers in more areas than hobbyists/tweakers, so they will be idiots and take whatever they're sold, even if it is overpriced, low quality DRMed music.
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Mchart
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reply to halfband

said by halfband:

said by Mchart:

Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online?
But if you change that to americans from 12-18 years of age I bet the numbers are pretty high.
Meh. I know A LOT of people in aforementioned age range that are just as hopeless with computers.


yock
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said by thender2:

said by GilbertMark:

said by Mchart:

Its true. Do you know a single 'average joe' american who actually knows how to share a file online?
He's right, the typical computer owner consumer is a moron. Always has been, and usually always will be. It's only those with a brain and who try to learn new things by reading and thinking who get anywhere with a computer. These are the same people who still have a flashing "12:00" on their damn VCR.
Corrected.

They believe a cheap 15 lbs box is a 500 watt receiver. They use composite video to hook up their HDTV. They buy a dell and ejaculate over their cheap pretty LCD and wonder why it dies when their HD goes to 80c because of poor case design. They

There are hobbyists, tweakers, and consumers. You can be all three at once. A consumer with electronics, a tweaker with cars, and a hobbyist for real estate, whatever. But most people are consumers in more areas than hobbyists/tweakers, so they will be idiots and take whatever they're sold, even if it is overpriced, low quality DRMed music.
You have a real disdain for non-geeks, don't you?
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thender2
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I am an idiot myself in many areas. I'm a mechanic's wet dream, I know nothing about web hosting hosting or modern politics, and would probably not care about any issues effecting any of these areas. Here I am a dumb, educated consumer, not a hobbyist or a tweaker, or someone who has an semi-educated view on the subject.

Consumers won't care, or even notice DRM until it bothers them, and by then it'll be everywhere. It goes for everything. In digital content land, there are far more consumers than other two personality types, which is the point. It's not just people who aren't computer whizzes who won't notice it, it's anyone who is not really going to look into it. It's a boring topic, so I don't blame people for buying whatever and not caring.
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Mordhem
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reply to Mchart
I don't I am 21 years old, and I can do pretty much anything with a computer, being the program websites, fixing peoples computers, removing copy protec... err Ohh wait I would not do that... I am a gamer and been using PC's since 94 or so. I can easily build my own pc.

I don't know any one of my Generation that does not know how to use a computer and most know how to handle MP3s

Thought I don't do Mac....
I do, do hacks



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said by trparky:

Obviously they haven't seen this web site.

But, even if they do offer non-DRMed music on the Internet, what will stop Joe Sixpack from giving that MP3 file to his buddy?
The same thing that stops joe from getting the songs in mp3 format on a protected CD. NOTHING!
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