JAXx
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Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data?
According to www.macrumors.com:
Time's author as well as David Pogue had some one-on-one time with the device, and provides these additional details and observations:
- Can't download songs directly from iTunes Store
- Can't sync iPhone with a computer wirelessly.
- "Web speed was OK—not great, but OK."
- "Apple went through numerous iterations of the glass surface, trying to find one that’s not too slick or too rough, or that shows grease and fingerprints too much. "
- "It feels amazing in your hand"
- "Typing is difficult"
According to Engadget, the iPhone is not open to 3rd party development at this time. Only Apple is providing (built-in) applications for the device.
The whole thread with comments at »forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=268228
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tigers
join:2001-01-14
Irmo, SC
| said by JAXx  :- "Typing is difficult" ...iPhone is not open to 3rd party development at this time. Only Apple is providing (built-in) applications for the device. The whole thread with comments at » forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=268228 That's disappointing. I was all set to get an iphone in June, but after finding that it doesn't do 3G and now this, it makes me pause. I think I'll wait for the reviews to come out first before jumping on this.
If I wanted a totally locked down phone, I'd just stay with Verizon (I love how they lock down bluetooth, put a crappy UI on the phone, etc. etc.). But at least with VZW I have high speed access with my piddly Razr that came out what, a year ago or more on VZW's network? |
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BrushedTooth
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Ok, here is my reasoning why it is not 3G capable, UMTS, and HSDPA or just about any CDMA derivatives do not get as good battery life as a GSM counter part. |
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CPM
join:2001-08-24
Miami, FL
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Iphone.I rather wait, like the other apple phone, apple try to do. What was the name of that phone again??? My point .
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bobrk
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| said by CPM :Iphone.I rather wait, like the other apple phone, apple try to do. What was the name of that phone again??? My point . I think your message is still encrypted.
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Zuhaib
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| See my post here: »Re: The Official MacWorld SF 2007 Discussion Thread
It is weird that 3G is already with Cingular and Apple did not go with it. I am more likely thinking this is a hold back from Cingular as the Treo 750 was going to ship now with no HSDPA but get an soft-upgrade this year by June. Who knows, David Pogue did say the phone he played with was pre-production, so we still have not seen the shipping phone.
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chanur
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said by MarkyD :said by Eldon :said by MarkyD :show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The BlackBerry Pearl, introduced in September, only supports EDGE speeds. good point. That is one. ANything running windows mobile released recently without high speed data? I'd say that's more of a competitor to the iPhone than the blackberry is... I beg to differ, the BB Pearl feature/functionality lines up pretty well with the iPhone, except no WiFi and it has a suretype keyboard rather than touchscreen (which is probably better anyway). Oh, and you can get one now, even under a 1 year contract, for 1/2 the price.
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hyperjoe
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The phone would be sweet if it was at the $299 point. The "new" technology is rather a weak arguement to spend $500-600 in contract. What I want to know...how much is it out of contract for existing customers?
The iPhone CAN be breakthrough but it is not. I still may get one though...would make a nice communicator.
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vincar
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I couldn't agree with Marky D. iphone looks real sweet and should be a huge hit with the younger crowd but not much else.
No high speed means not tethering a laptop either. I have a 3G EVDO and the battery life is 1 1/2 to 2 days. I use it quite extensively.
I don't think Apple's target market for this is business/power user.
I think it's the 14-22 year old crowd.
I must admit it is very cool looking. |
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M A R K
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| said by vincar :I couldn't agree with Marky D. iphone looks real sweet and should be a huge hit with the younger crowd but not much else. No high speed means not tethering a laptop either. I have a 3G EVDO and the battery life is 1 1/2 to 2 days. I use it quite extensively. I don't think Apple's target market for this is business/power user. I think it's the 14-22 year old crowd. I must admit it is very cool looking. 14-22 is sidekick territory.
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vincar
join:2005-07-28
Emerson, NJ | so the iphone will have some company. |
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bobrk
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said by M A R K :said by vincar :I couldn't agree with Marky D. iphone looks real sweet and should be a huge hit with the younger crowd but not much else. No high speed means not tethering a laptop either. I have a 3G EVDO and the battery life is 1 1/2 to 2 days. I use it quite extensively. I don't think Apple's target market for this is business/power user. I think it's the 14-22 year old crowd. I must admit it is very cool looking. 14-22 is sidekick territory. 14-22 don't have that kind of discretionary cash.
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vincar
join:2005-07-28
Emerson, NJ
| The under 25 year olds currently account for a little over half of current ipod sales. And with the rebate from Cingular that I'm sure will come with a 2 year agreement the iphone will sit in the 299.00-399.00 price rage.
Currently 64% of school children 19 and under have a cell phone.
Moms and Dads have that type of discretionary cash. |
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M A R K
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said by bobrk :said by M A R K :said by vincar :I couldn't agree with Marky D. iphone looks real sweet and should be a huge hit with the younger crowd but not much else. No high speed means not tethering a laptop either. I have a 3G EVDO and the battery life is 1 1/2 to 2 days. I use it quite extensively. I don't think Apple's target market for this is business/power user. I think it's the 14-22 year old crowd. I must admit it is very cool looking. 14-22 is sidekick territory. 14-22 don't have that kind of discretionary cash. No, but the rich mommy and daddy do
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IronChefMoto
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Alpharetta, GA
| said by M A R K :No, but the rich mommy and daddy do Yeah, but rich Mommy and Daddy should know better that expensive phone carried in expensive new BMW 330i for rich kid will most likely be lost along with car and kid when kid slams into tree showing how cool he/she is in said rich kid car after JUST getting his/her license the day before.
I know -- off topic...
...I will say that the phone is cool. I have a Blackberry from work, and I'm stuck using it with Lotus Notes, but if I could get it to do some of the basic OS X kind of things that the iPhone appears to do with little or no hassle, I'd be much happier with it.
I have a co-worker who has a non-work Blackberry, and he likes it for his POP/IMAP account, for example. I will say that web browsing is so-so using the built in Blackberry and Cingular browsers. I tried Opera Mobile, but it sucked. Was slow. |
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Michieru2
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Dude, don't even bother trying here it's a waste of your time and I am telling you this from experience. Anyone who does buy a phone for it's specifications will always be the individual who will get more bang for his buck. If these people want to waste 600 dollars like water let them go ahead.
I rather have that money in my pocket and stick it into a savings account or donate some of that to charity for the march of dimes.
My SCP-8400 costed me less than 100 dollars after the mail in rebate, I am really not bothered by it all although my phone is not a Rev.A capable phone it's still a EV-DO phone with decent speeds that I use with my Macbook over Bluetooth.
Of course since some of these guys have stocks from Apple they are gonna try to shove everything they can to make the company look good so there stock price can increase and make more money.
But to be very clear on one thing, you buy first from your needs and then later your wants. I found out I saved myself a few hundred dollars per month staying away from the things I want and just getting the stuff I need and have stuck that money into a ING Direct account with a 4.5%APY
Eventually I began going deeper into bargains and found the type of Gatorade you make with by dumping the mix. Turns out if I bought that for 7 dollars I get 6 gallons. But 2 gallon Gatorade made costed me the same price.
Of course I bought the one you create and I have yet to buy another one of those things and have not been to the grocery store in two weeks.
But back to the topic and point, the iPhone is a revolutionary for it's UI but it's specs and as a internet communications device pales in comparison.
I was expecting ichat like interface where the camera is on the front of the phone or a swivel type camera and you can do video conferencing with your friends over a HSDPA or EV-DO network, because that would make sense of course Motorola's Ojo was first but this right here is a mobile device of it's kind and that what would make the iPhone revolutionary.
Considering that Seagate now has released it's 1.8in" HD's with around 40GB and even 60GB storage capacity there is really no execuse for why the iPhone to be what it is and for it's price.
Also the problem with the stylus was fixed a long time ago, it's called a string attached to the pen and the device, I wonder how people can now sign stuff on there phone as that is quite helpful considering Nextel sold a wireless credit card type device as well.
I can also go into talks about how people complain about Walkie talkies not being able to reach 12 miles as advertised because there are using the FRS frequency and not the GMRS frequency and on top of that don't know they require a license that costs 86 dollars for five year's to do so. |
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I know the big question is functionality but at what price?
$4-500 for the phone + a 2 year contact. What's the cost per month for unlimited use of all the features the phone can supply? Is it worth it? Only you travelin' salesmen can answer that.
My crappy old, unlocked, razr with Opera can do email and surf the web at a whopping 350kps with a pay as you go plan from cingular. Point is, do I want to do it on a 3 or 4" screen - not likely. |
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TigerNutz
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Eventually I began going deeper into bargains and found the type of Gatorade you make with by dumping the mix. Turns out if I bought that for 7 dollars I get 6 gallons. But 2 gallon Gatorade made costed me the same price.
damn, that is a lot Gatorade!
are you like, a coach or something?
What flavor?
personally I prefer koolaid..... |
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Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
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Miami, FL
| I played soccer since I was a kid and every now and then go out and do some exercises and I make the Gatorade at home, stick it in a water bottle with ice and head out to run or play some football these days.
Also never really liked koolaid and the flavor is citric. |
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gabeman
join:2001-05-03
Philadelphia, PA
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No 3rd party apps is a deal breaker. Who cares if the device runs OS X and has Core Animation if it's not open to developers?
This is ridiculous. |
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