yabos
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Ingersoll, ON
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Re: [rant] iPhone: What's the point with no high speed data?
Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. |
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MarkyD
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| said by yabos  :Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability.
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yabos
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Ingersoll, ON
| I don't know from personal experience because A: I don't have a need for a smartphone yet and B: I live in Canada and the wireless providers rape us for data access. $100 for 100MB no joke.
But from what I've read a lot of places don't have 3G and all the people on slashdot saying they have the latest 3G smartphones say it's worse batterylife than the iPhone. I'm talking about it not even lasting a whole day without the battery dying. That's not really something I see Apple wanting to produce. Someone said on slashdot the Japanese phones are quite large compared to the little ones we have over here and I bet it has to do with the battery problem. They need a larger battery for 3G and Apple is all about slim form factors and elegant designs. |
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MarkyD
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| said by yabos :I don't know from personal experience because A: I don't have a need for a smartphone yet and B: I live in Canada and the wireless providers rape us for data access. $100 for 100MB no joke. But from what I've read a lot of places don't have 3G and all the people on slashdot saying they have the latest 3G smartphones say it's worse batterylife than the iPhone. I'm talking about it not even lasting a whole day without the battery dying. That's not really something I see Apple wanting to produce. Someone said on slashdot the Japanese phones are quite large compared to the little ones we have over here and I bet it has to do with the battery problem. They need a larger battery for 3G and Apple is all about slim form factors and elegant designs. that is simply not true. The difference in power consumption between HSPDA/EDGE chips is marginal. The difference in time that they would have to stay connected to the network to download a file DOES make a big difference in battery life.
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yabos
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Ingersoll, ON | I'm going from what I've read and many people saying on slashdot that they have some of the 3G phones and they last less than a day on standby. So either the phone sucks(probably) or it has to do with the 3G |
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Eldon
join:2001-04-17
Chicago, IL
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said by MarkyD :show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The BlackBerry Pearl, introduced in September, only supports EDGE speeds. |
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MarkyD
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| said by Eldon :said by MarkyD :show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The BlackBerry Pearl, introduced in September, only supports EDGE speeds. good point. That is one. ANything running windows mobile released recently without high speed data? I'd say that's more of a competitor to the iPhone than the blackberry is...
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BrushedTooth
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join:2001-02-12
Brecksville, OH
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Ok, here is my reasoning why it is not 3G capable, UMTS, and HSDPA or just about any CDMA derivatives do not get as good battery life as a GSM counter part. |
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chanur
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join:2001-02-26
Colorado Springs, CO
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said by MarkyD :said by Eldon :said by MarkyD :show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The BlackBerry Pearl, introduced in September, only supports EDGE speeds. good point. That is one. ANything running windows mobile released recently without high speed data? I'd say that's more of a competitor to the iPhone than the blackberry is... I beg to differ, the BB Pearl feature/functionality lines up pretty well with the iPhone, except no WiFi and it has a suretype keyboard rather than touchscreen (which is probably better anyway). Oh, and you can get one now, even under a 1 year contract, for 1/2 the price.
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said by MarkyD :said by yabos :Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The samsung blackjack
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| said by hkellogg :said by MarkyD :said by yabos :Well, there's not much 3G in the US as of yet so I don't see the problem really. That and most 3G phones have even worse battery life(from what I hear) than the iPhone reports to have. I'm sure when they bring it to Europe and Asia it'll probably be 3G. To compete in Asia they'll have to because all their phones are light years ahead of the North American phones. show me one smart phone that has come out in the last year without a high speed data radio, be it HSPDA (Cingular) or EVDO (Sprint/Verizon/Alltel). They simply don't exist. Most major cities have EVDO or HSPDA, so there is no reason at all that the iPhone should not have this capability. The samsung blackjack The Blackjack has HSPDA on Cingular. |
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