 RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT
1 edit | Dear AT&T... Dear Uverse project engineers...
My fellow Americans..
and CWH.
Approximately 3 days ago, my cable operator, Adelphia..was transitioned over to Comcast.
Following a little upgrading this morning..and a bit of tweaking..these are currently my results.
19914k Download speeds
719k Upload speeds
I ask you this. How is Uverse EVER going to compete?
Do you think that when that uverse flyer winds up on my door that I'd EVER want to switch from something like this for what today anyway..appears to be at best 1/3rd those speeds?
You must be on crack if you think that would ever happen.
This is so fast that to be honest..I'm afraid to go to anymore speed test sites. The last one I went to..when it started downloading..it blew me off my seat and into the wall.
I mean, have you ever sat at a connection like this? One that just starts getting warmed up at about 9,000k..then absolutely rips into overdrive..leaving you just wondering, what the he** is AT&T ever going to do to match this?
But, you know what? This is just the beginning. Where will this all be when at&t finally gets itself rolled out of 8 markets it's trying to sell a few customer service in now?
Will this service be at 50MB by the time AT&T really calls uverse a viable product?
As I read the above story, all I could see was poor Mr. CFO so damn worried about disapointing his investors. So worried about spending the money that it will take to really compete.
But, you know what? With this kind of competition, I'm really starting to worry that AT&T won't even be around to compete.
After all, would YOU take uverse and it's 5MB speeds instead of something like THIS?
19914/719
You'd have to be absolutely insane..or completely broke.
One can only hope they come to their senses.
Before it's too late.
Fiber..to the home.
It's now, or never..for AT&T. |
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That's nice and all, but what you leave out is that 95% of consumers dont NEED such speeds. For them 1.5-3Mb is good enough.
For that matter, you best hope you keep that speed and they dont slow you down after they get situated.
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | said by Fatal Vector:That's nice and all, but what you leave out is that 95% of consumers dont NEED such speeds. For them 1.5-3Mb is good enough. For that matter, you best hope you keep that speed and they dont slow you down after they get situated. You right. Most people shop on price and performance. Most people dont need 20meg download. It is a nice service no doubt, but that does not mean everyone wants it.
And Rick, I still got more upload than you do. |
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said by Fatal Vector:That's nice and all, but what you leave out is that 95% of consumers dont NEED such speeds. For them 1.5-3Mb is good enough. It's the total cost comparison that breaks your equation. The inflated cost of AT&T phone service (with all those myriad of "extra" service charges) is used to subsidize the "cheap" (and slow) DSL. Folks are starting to see that for the same total cost of "cheap DSL" and AT&T phone service -- they can have (at no extra cost) much faster broadband with VoIP on their cable. For the same money -- why-not? Good-Bye AT&T! |
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The inflated cost of phone service? I have a basic, unlimited local calling, no frills line from AT&T that is just shy of $16 a month before taxes, my 1.5 DSL, which is rock stable, 24/7 AND fits my needs is $13.
That's $30, before taxes, about $45 after. Still WAY cheaper than comcast when you have to bundle TV and HSI, BEFORE taxes. Hell, HSI alone is $42 and TV is another $50. Who exactly has the bloated cost?
You can call DSL slow if you like, but the bottom line is that 1.5 Mb service fits MANY peoples internet needs.
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 ymojicaPremium
join:2005-09-13
Cypress, TX
2 edits | reply to Happi
here is my connection rate from u-verse service that I got installed on last month.. Let me tell you I don't have any complaints about the speed or the quality of the picture, so far I can said that is better than satellite or cable  |
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RickPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-06
Waterbury, CT | reply to Fatal Vector
lol, you're using some real creative math there.
What you're leaving out of YOUR costs though is YOUR tv costs in addition to your phone and dsl.
And any way you want to shake it, 1.5M dsl simply is no comparison for 20M cable.
Sorry.
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Dear Rick,
Guess who's losing the battle in broadband?
Guess which technology is adding more subs per month for over 2 consecutive years?
DSL, so at&t is not so wrong after all. |
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You are not an average account (I suspect not even real). Here is a "modest" AT&T account. Cable + VoIP beats it to shreds! |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX | reply to Happi
A land line is not required for U-verse. So if you want to voip from another provider, you can. VOIP for u-verse should be arriving in the near future... |
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said by Fatal Vector:That's $30, before taxes, about $45 after. $15 in taxes!!!?!? That's 50% of your bill added on for taxes and fees. That is EXACTLY what is wrong with the phone company. Taxes and fees on my cable/internet/phone bill are less than 10%. |
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phone=$16 dsl=$13 u r missing all the line charge bs. the lowest ive seen att dsl is 14.99, lets see a copy of the bill.
what u dont see is the real cost of their dsl cuz they hide it in the pots line charges. |
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 AlakarFacts do not cease to exist when ignored
join:2001-03-23
Milwaukee, WI | reply to hamburglar_
said by hamburglar_:said by Fatal Vector:That's $30, before taxes, about $45 after. $15 in taxes!!!?!? That's 50% of your bill added on for taxes and fees. That is EXACTLY what is wrong with the phone company. Taxes and fees on my cable/internet/phone bill are less than 10%. So you blame the phone company when the government collects taxes from you? The surcharges and other fees are taxes; the government doesn't allow those to be listed as taxes, because they don't want people getting pissed. All of these are outlined in the 1996 Telecom Act. The reason you don't see these on your cable bill, is because cable in not subject to that act.
It's not the phone company charging all of this, it's the government.
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LOL
Yet you fail to mention how many POTS subscribers (the real $$ maker) the telcos ARE LOSING per quarter!
offering DSL service at such cheap rates is good and all, however id say by second quarter kiss those rates good bye, if it takes 2 years just to re coop losses for a DSL subscriber. So before years end DSL rates for that 1.5 line should be around 45 bux per month not including fee + taxes to new subscribers, i also say contracts will ensue once again,,,good luck
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My TV costs are immaterial, since I dont use Comcast HSI. And I was referring to the "bloated cost of TELEPHONE service.
Also, I never said 1.5 Mb DSL was comparable to 20 Mb service. What Iv'e said many times is that my 1.5 serves my needs and is rock stable speed wise. I also said that most consumers dont need such service and 1.5 DSL serves their needs too.
Face it. Only geeks want or "need" 20 Mb Internet service. The rest buy what suits their needs and wallets. It has allways been so in commerce. |
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If you bother to ASK next time you call AT&T, and hack your way through the marketing pitch, you will find that a BASIC, NO FRILLS line for unlimited local calling is about $16 and a metered line (usually 40 local calls included) is about $10, before taxes. BOTH of which will qualify you for DSL. It's not rocket science.
A Metered line plus DSL at $13 is $23 before taxes, even less than VOIP.
"15 in taxes!!!?!? That's 50% of your bill added on for taxes and fees. That is EXACTLY what is wrong with the phone company. Taxes and fees on my cable/internet/phone bill are less than 10%."
It's not the phone company. It's the "Fcc access charge", the "911 charge and/or surcharge" Federal tax, state tax, franchise tax, and other taxes. In some places the taxes add up to MORE than the cost of the line itself.
"phone=$16 dsl=$13 u r missing all the line charge bs. the lowest ive seen att dsl is 14.99, lets see a copy of the bill.
what u dont see is the real cost of their dsl cuz they hide it in the pots line charges."
Actually, the bill is quite detailed and all the different services are separated. The DSL is the last promotion for a one year contract they offered. it is $12.95, before taxes.
The line charge is for the POTS line itself for "access to the telephone network" (what a crock of shit.). |
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