Rob
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| Many Changes at the FCC...
1) Remove the Chairman. The guy is a waste of our money.
2) Increase what is classified as "broadband" from 200kbps to at least 1.5mbps.
3) Redefine how the FCC determines if an area is broadband serviced by making it that at least 50% of a zip code qualifies for broadband. |
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MASantangelo
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| 1) Agreed.
2) 2 at the minimum would be nice, I'll settle for 1 for now.
3) What is the current requirement? I've not heard much on it.
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said by Rob  :1) Remove the Chairman. The guy is a waste of our money. They have no power to do so. In fact, the Dems signed off on Martin when he was reappointed.
If the Dems want to do something about the FCC, they should pass new laws. The trouble would be getting a veto-proof version thru the Senate. And w/o Repub concurrence on the new laws, that won't happen.
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Rob
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said by MASantangelo :3) What is the current requirement? I've not heard much on it. According to the FCC, if 1 person in a zip code qualifies for broadband, then the entire zip code is considered to be broadband ready.
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Rob
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said by TKJunkMail :said by Rob :1) Remove the Chairman. The guy is a waste of our money. They have no power to do so. In fact, the Dems signed off on Martin when he was reappointed. If the Dems want to do something about the FCC, they should pass new laws. The trouble would be getting a veto-proof version thru the Senate. And w/o Repub concurrence on the new laws, that won't happen. I know, it's wishful thinking. 
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MASantangelo
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That's just ridiculous... |
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Rob
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| said by MASantangelo :That's just ridiculous... Yep.
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SRFireside
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1) Agreed. We need someone with some real open-ended experience in the field.
2) Sorry to spoil it for ya, but 256k and up should still be considered broadband (albeit the slowest). The differences in speed between dialup and ISDN over that is quite noticeable. Plus 256k has been an offering for broadband for well over a decade, and not just from DSL. Fractional T1 lines and cable broadband are still offering this. Keep in mind most things done on the web are just as fast at 256k as they are for 6Mb.
3) Also agree. Maybe a slightly smaller percentage like 40% to give a fair compromise, but no more one-house-entire-zip-code tricks. |
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TKJunkMail
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said by Rob :said by MASantangelo :3) What is the current requirement? I've not heard much on it. According to the FCC, if 1 person in a zip code qualifies for broadband, then the entire zip code is considered to be broadband ready. I've seen this fact quoted often here in these BBR news items, but I have never seen it on the FCC web site. Does anyone have a link verifying this claim.
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PeterCollins
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and watch how quickly, just by raising the bandwidth rate from 200k to 1.5m, how many zip codes suddenly DON'T have access to "broadband."
I think that would be very telling...we may actually start to get a "closer to real" view of where we stand. Granted if only one person in the zip could get 1.5 down, you're still going to see misrepresentation, but it would be a start. |
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PeterCollins
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| THANKS.
But I believe this statistic quoted in the same report is more relevant than 99% of ZipCodes have broadband stat.
As a nationwide average, we estimate that high-speed DSL connections were available to 78% of the households to whom incumbent LECs could provide local telephone service as of December 31, 2005, and that high-speed cable modem service was available to 93% of the households to whom cable system operators could provide cable TV service.
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| "As a nationwide average, we estimate that high-speed DSL connections were available to 78% of the households to whom incumbent LECs could provide local telephone service as of December 31, 2005, and that high-speed cable modem service was available to 93% of the households to whom cable system operators could provide cable TV service."
Sounds like this fairy tale is based on 200kbps "broadband", and if that's all you believe is needed, then, as in your myopically pedantic world, the Telco line is all you need to tow. |
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Skippy25
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"Keep in mind most things done on the web are just as fast at 256k as they are for 6Mb."
Really? I certainly notice that I get my email, webpages, and downloads much quicker over a 3mb connection than I do over a 1mb connection.
Or wait, is email, web surfing, and downloads not still considered "most things" done on the web? |
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RJ44
join:2001-10-19
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said by Rob :2) Increase what is classified as "broadband" from 200kbps to at least 1.5mbps. I disagree, that is really too high. Sure everyone here wants 1.5 minimum, but there are millions of folks to whom an always on 256k connection is just fine. Maybe they should classify different ranges of broadband or something, but I have no problem with 256k as a minimum. |
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Rob
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| said by RJ44 :said by Rob :2) Increase what is classified as "broadband" from 200kbps to at least 1.5mbps. I disagree, that is really too high. Sure everyone here wants 1.5 minimum, but there are millions of folks to whom an always on 256k connection is just fine. Maybe they should classify different ranges of broadband or something, but I have no problem with 256k as a minimum. Ok. Then classify broadband as a Internet Connection of 200kbps, but do not classify the area 'broadband ready' if the only available speed is 200kbps.
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SRFireside
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What ISP did you use for that 1Mb? Same as your 2Mb? Some ISP's have a higher latency due to the equipment they use or the saturation on their bandwidth (which can vary by the hour). Email, too, is dependent on either your ISP or whomever you get your email service from. Also how fast a web page loads depends on the ISP the web site is using and the kind of bandwidth available at the time, latency and such.
Most web sites only need 5k-10kbps to load up quickly. More graphic and multimedia intensive sites probably no more than 30k-40kbps to load fast. Downloads are they ONLY factor where a faster connection makes a difference, and even then it would depend on if the download site can bear the load. Many don't go much faster than 50kbps, and the good ones usually stick at 200k and lower.
Yes, there are places like BT and some sites that can kick downloads at 1Mb or higher. The point is there is absolutely no reason why a 256k connection cannot give somebody a good, fast Internet experience that can be indiscernible from faster connections when it's with the right provider. |
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SRFireside
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said by Rob :Ok. Then classify broadband as a Internet Connection of 200kbps, but do not classify the area 'broadband ready' if the only available speed is 200kbps. That's fair enough. A true 'broadband ready' area has to have availability of speeds reaching 1.5Mb and beyond if you want to give an honest description. At the same time there should be a designation for areas that can only get lets say 128k-512k that say they are broadband ready, but at limited speeds. |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | reply to Rob
More accurately sounds like karma. |
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VerizonCynic
join:2006-10-25
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Should be ZIP plus 4 for an area. that is like 20 homes |
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