Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n in All Things Macintosh http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17646644 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:08:19 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:08:19 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17654772 HiVolt :
said by acadiel See Profile :

This patch is going to wind up on so many websites so fast that its going to be funny...
I wonder if they are gonna get their legal department hunting those down who post it on websites.

It'll probably cost them more than the revenue they will get from the patch, heh.
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said by acadiel See Profile :

This patch is going to wind up on so many websites so fast that its going to be funny...

. . . . But they still have to put it into the fine print to make it legal in the eyes of Big Brother.

:)

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17654680 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:35:34 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17654517 acadiel : This patch is going to wind up on so many websites so fast that its going to be funny...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17654517 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:11:34 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17653643 93254336 :
said by sporkme See Profile :

said by The Dv8or See Profile :

The idea is that the software is not currently capable of doing things it can do in the future. The upgrade is an add-on after the fact in a development of doing something better, but you're not specifically hiding a current feature. It's also much more difficult to prove in software than it is in hardware.
How about firmware updates on DVD burners that increase the max burn speed? Drive is advertised as 2x, update makes it 4x.
Here's an idea: how about a $5 upgrade fee for the patch which will change the US Daylight Saving info to the new 2007 dates?

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17653643 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:03:52 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17652313 nolancj :
said by RIRWIN1983 See Profile :

then how did directv get away with sellng its hr-20 hddvr that had the connections for ota,network,ect... but did not work because they needed to be enabled via software updates once they got the outher bugs fixed.
This isn't really a debate of one company vs. another. It's how Apple has decided to manage the situation given their accounting policies. Maybe DTV has different policies. SOX does leave a lot up to interpretation by a given entity.

Also, DTV could also maintain that the monthly fee you pay for services is a subscription type service and hence entitles you to maintaining current product sets relative to hardware.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17652313 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:25:59 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17651816 sporkme :
said by The Dv8or See Profile :

The idea is that the software is not currently capable of doing things it can do in the future. The upgrade is an add-on after the fact in a development of doing something better, but you're not specifically hiding a current feature. It's also much more difficult to prove in software than it is in hardware.
How about firmware updates on DVD burners that increase the max burn speed? Drive is advertised as 2x, update makes it 4x.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17651816 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:59:45 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17651600 russotto : Parallels, Inc. is privately held, thus SOX doesn't apply to them.

Apple's unlikely to go private, but it's not impossible. They'd need some deep-pocket investors.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17651600 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:24:55 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17651107 tpeng : $5 probably will barely (if at all) cover the transaction fees and administrative costs for setting up a system just to collect and account for these costs. In all likelihood, they'd lose money on the deal. It sounds as if this went up the wrong chain or someone raised an alarm from legal and given that they are currently under the SEC's magnifying glass for screwing up recently, they are not taking any chances.

Of course it's silly, and Apple has to know that it will get nothing but bad press out of it. In other circumstances, they probably would just release the software upgrade simply as adding "compatibility with the new Airport extreme", like the WPA upgrade.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17651107 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:49:19 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17650980 nolancj : There are 2 things here:

1. Maintenance fees are how software companies (larger ones mostly) sell new features.
2. Small companies (like parallels) will fly under the radar with regards to these issues. They're also not a public company.

SOX has created a paranoia within companies, espeically those caught in finance scandals, stock option issues, revenue reporting problems, inventory tracking problems, etc.

SOX requires that adequate controls be put in place to manage ALL of the financial reporting within an organization, and requires the officers of the company to attest to their accuracy.

What that has done is put Finance in control of many, many companies. A BAD thing in my opinion. A few bad apples (Enron, MCI, etc), have ruined innovation and freedom in large public companies, in my humble opinion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17650980 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:27:06 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17650918 The Dv8or : The idea is that the software is not currently capable of doing things it can do in the future. The upgrade is an add-on after the fact in a development of doing something better, but you're not specifically hiding a current feature. It's also much more difficult to prove in software than it is in hardware.
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said by nolancj See Profile :

SOX rules prohibit you from selling "future features" with an existing sale. For example, if I were to sell you a piece of software, I have to represent what it does TODAY. I cannot give you "future" features. Most Software companies work around this with maintenance fees. You basically cannot sell what you do not have.
Then how do companies give free lifetime updates to their software? For example Parallels. You buy it once and you get updates for life. All the new betas are adding features that weren't in the first version and they can get away with it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17650884 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:05:51 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17649851 Paladin : They should just take Apple private already. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17649851 Tue, 16 Jan 2007 01:31:38 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17649429 Homunculus : Gee, Apple finding another way of milking their customers. Well I'll be.
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said by tokevino See Profile :

IT is IT, accounting is accounting. You didn't advertise it? then the feature didn't exist. Just like you always expense R&D costs regardless what you did.
BullShit is BullShit (I spelled it out for you so you won't be confused by the acronyms being hurled about the pasture). Incremental upgrades to a particular piece of hardware's firmware to enable already existent capabilities is NOT the same as providing an advertising to sell a new device with previously unavailable features. If I didn't rely on a non-existent claim of future enhancement of the hardware I was purchasing at the time of purchase, why should I have to pay additional money if a firmware upgrade enables a previously disabled, unadvertised innate capability of the hardware I have already paid for????

Have you never heard of incremantal enhancement of hardware via firmware upgrades? Have you ever owned a router? Have you ever bought a video card that later was able to be enhanced by updating its firmware to enable previously disabled features of the chipset, and providing more processing capability than was advertised?

Apple either should provide the patch for free, or enable the full capabilities of the product from the outset. The reason they didn't is because "pre-N" is not a salable feature until a standard is approved. So asking people to pay extra for a capability before it is an approved standard, isn't going to fly, and you can't advertise a capability as a feature if it relies on unproven, unapproved, and possibly changing, pending standards. This action they've taken is just an attempt to backcharge for hardware already purchased, and paid for. It should have been provided as a nice surprise for Apple's customers, instead of the means to pump Apple's bottom line. It certainly doesn't cost $5.00 per capita to provide the patch for download.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648429 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:00:30 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648391 MysticGogeta : If this was Microsoft, dell or who ever I would be pissed. The fact of the matter is why should you pay for someone else's mistake?
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It's Apple's fault for not advertising properly, I don't see why us customers must foot a mistake Apple made.

But considering that some people already are shareholders of Apple Inc. It's a typical response from those who do. Luckily I have no reason to complain because I own a first generation Macbook, but nevertheless I won't let people get screwed over and having them listen to the same jargon over and over that it's like a tape recording.
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said by sporkme See Profile :

I call BS on the SO excuse. I've downloaded plenty of software from Software Update that has enabled features that were not there before.
Precisely... so is Apple now also going to charge a "modest fee" for each SU?

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648172 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:12:31 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648051 ArchAngel21x : My indifference to this plight stems from the fact that 1) I don't need the 802.11n standard, 2) $5 is already cheap, and 3) Apple is just trying to follow the law. To qualify my statement, I want to add that my reaction would be the same if it was Microsoft or another computer company.
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said by ross See Profile :

Frankly, it's analogous to Telcos charging a "Regulatory Recovery Fee". It is totally made up, doesn't relate in any demonstrable way to real cost, and/or costs are so tenuously associated and nebulous, they amount to zilch. Furthermore, "n" capabilty is an existent feature of the hardware that has been previously disabled, not added, and the hardware has already been paid for. It's like wanting to charge an additional fee to purchasers because a new use has been found for any existing, already purchased product. How many purchasers of handheld "massage" devices are going to be charged for the unadvertised x-rated capabilities inherent to the hardware when users apply it to the "right" software patch?
IT is IT, accounting is accounting. You didn't advertise it? then the feature didn't exist. Just like you always expense R&D costs regardless what you did.
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said by furlonium See Profile :

said by tokevino See Profile :

Nope: Mac has roughly 5 to 6 % right now, linux has about 1%, could be higher or lower; so let's say 6% of Mac and Linux users combined, that's a ratio of 15~16:1. (94:6)
From the commercials I've seen, aren't you Mac people supposed to have a sense of humor? Maybe pick up on a little sarcasm? Right on, jolly-o!

You can count me in with the 94% and the 1%, as I dual boot with Slackware.
I guess I do miss-count myself....

I am in the 94%, the 5%, as well as the 1%.... Oh, wait! I have 2 94%s, 2 5%s, and 2 1%s....

lol
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said by tokevino See Profile :

Nope: Mac has roughly 5 to 6 % right now, linux has about 1%, could be higher or lower; so let's say 6% of Mac and Linux users combined, that's a ratio of 15~16:1. (94:6)
From the commercials I've seen, aren't you Mac people supposed to have a sense of humor? Maybe pick up on a little sarcasm? Right on, jolly-o!

You can count me in with the 94% and the 1%, as I dual boot with Slackware.
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said by furlonium See Profile :

said by tokevino See Profile :

said by furlonium See Profile :

Of course not - nobody else's opinion matters but the zealots, right? And if this were Microsoft's happenings, would the people in the MS forum expect everyone to keep quiet? HELL no, there would be 15 pages of comments of "M$" bashing.
Amount people who bash, more MS fans than Linux or Apple fans combined...probably at 1000:1 ratio...
Hey - that ratio sounds about right for the amount of Windows users vs. Linux/Apple users :D
Nope: Mac has roughly 4 to 5 % right now, linux has about 1%, could be higher or lower; so let's say 6% of Mac and Linux users combined, that's a ratio of 15~16:1. (94:6)
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said by tokevino See Profile :

said by furlonium See Profile :

Of course not - nobody else's opinion matters but the zealots, right? And if this were Microsoft's happenings, would the people in the MS forum expect everyone to keep quiet? HELL no, there would be 15 pages of comments of "M$" bashing.
Amount people who bash, more MS fans than Linux or Apple fans combined...probably at 1000:1 ratio...
Hey - that ratio sounds about right for the amount of Windows users vs. Linux/Apple users :D
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said by furlonium See Profile :

Of course not - nobody else's opinion matters but the zealots, right? And if this were Microsoft's happenings, would the people in the MS forum expect everyone to keep quiet? HELL no, there would be 15 pages of comments of "M$" bashing.
Amount people who bash, more MS fans than Linux or Apple fans combined...probably at 1000:1 ratio...
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$5 is reasonable to let Apple recover the costs of transaction and accounting and keep the share holders happy as well.

Don't listen to what front-pagers have to say: they have no idea what they were talking about.
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tell Application Airport

{give me my draft N}

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Someone will find a way.
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;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647313 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:55:11 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647292 MacWin : "Advertising unavailable features is ALSO a violation."

Shhh the people on the front page thread might hear you and then what would they be able to bash Apple about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647292 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:51:42 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647254 russotto : Advertising unavailable features is ALSO a violation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647254 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:45:38 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647198 nolancj :
I'm in the software business. I can see the reasoning here. It could very well stem not so much from SOX (as it's called), but also existing contracts with gov't pricing schedules. This is a legitimate concern.

SOX rules prohibit you from selling "future features" with an existing sale. For example, if I were to sell you a piece of software, I have to represent what it does TODAY. I cannot give you "future" features. Most Software companies work around this with maintenance fees. You basically cannot sell what you do not have.

So, my guess is Apple is going to sell this as a new feature. Therefore, they can't give it away.

Stupid, but blame the accountants, Enron, MCI, and all the others that SOX came from.

said by MacWin See Profile :

At least they have a valid reason.

"I’m not going to claim to understand this next part, which really just makes no sense to me at all, but the claim Apple’s making is that it _can’t_ give you the 802.11n-unlocking software for free. The reason: the Core 2 Duo Macs weren’t advertised as 802.11n-ready, and a little law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act supposedly prohibits Apple from giving away an unadvertised new feature for one of its products. Hence, said the Apple rep, the company’s not distributing new _features_ in Software Update any more, just _bug fixes._ Because of Sarbanes-Oxley. If this is an accurate statement of Apple’s position, which as an attorney (but not one with any Sarbanes background) I find at least plausible, this is really crazy."

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This is a feature, something ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647198 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:39:52 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647122 russotto : If it's a choice between not giving away any more new features and risking Federal "pound me in the ass" prison, management will kill or charge for the features every time.

Time to hoist the Jolly Roger for third party 'n' users, I think.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647122 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:26:50 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647120 leXicon5 :
said by zeromips See Profile :

Meh, its only $4.99, dunno what people are getting so freaked out about.
You do know the crowd that you're referring to right? They don't flinch when the iPod they want is $499 but whine and moan about a product they have not seen yet...
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647120 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:26:31 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647014 Daniel8802 : its coming from appleinsider ....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647014 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:05:51 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646992 M A R K : Lame garbage... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646992 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:01:50 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646948 MacWin : "Unfortunately I deal with SOX at work and it is a PITA."

Makes me glad I'm with a private company.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646948 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:53:15 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646926 bbarrera :
said by sporkme See Profile :

I call BS on the SO excuse.
SOX is causing ripples all over the universe, the excuse isn't that far fetched. Unfortunately I deal with SOX at work and it is a PITA.

Let's parse the 'excuse' for a solution...
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According to the editor, the fee stems from a law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act, which supposedly prohibits Apple from giving away an unadvertised new feature of an already sold product without enduring some onerous accounting measures.

The solution is for Apple to advertise new yet currently unavailable features. Then no problem with later enabling those features via software update.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646926 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:49:27 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646805 sporkme : I call BS on the SO excuse. I've downloaded plenty of software from Software Update that has enabled features that were not there before.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646805 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:32:47 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646755 zeromips : Meh, its only $4.99, dunno what people are getting so freaked out about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646755 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:25:06 EDT Re: Apple to charge to unlock 802.11n http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17646726 MacWin : At least they have a valid reason.

"I’m not going to claim to understand this next part, which really just makes no sense to me at all, but the claim Apple’s making is that it _can’t_ give you the 802.11n-unlocking software for free. The reason: the Core 2 Duo Macs weren’t advertised as 802.11n-ready, and a little law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act supposedly prohibits Apple from giving away an unadvertised new feature for one of its products. Hence, said the Apple rep, the company’s not distributing new _features_ in Software Update any more, just _bug fixes._ Because of Sarbanes-Oxley. If this is an accurate statement of Apple’s position, which as an attorney (but not one with any Sarbanes background) I find at least plausible, this is really crazy."

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»www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2398
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