Re: HMM in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17647462 en Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:54:09 EDT Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:54:09 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648454 dvd536 :
said by Corona See Profile :

By charging $5 for it without giving them anything but the firmware makes them look like greedy bastards.
I couldn't have described apile (whoops i meant apple)any better.
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You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648454 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:05:51 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648336 anon : Yeah, cedar park? Freezing my ass off in Round Rock.

Anyways, I guess since the xbox 360 is already advertised with including xbox live silver, the free one. And since xbox live silver is advertised as being able to update your system and whatnot, I guess they don't have to charge them? I don't know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648336 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:03:56 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648393 Corona : I'll bet it just happens to get "leaked" and everything will be just fine.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648393 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:53:27 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648377 backness : or maybe just post the patch on the website and let the users download it as the users see fit as is the standard for the rest of the industry?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648377 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:50:18 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648255 smcallah : No, because Xbox Live Silver is free for every console, and it allows you to download the updates.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648255 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:29:23 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648079 Zak3056 :
said by Enlightener See Profile :

Funny, this didn't seem to stop Microsoft from releasing the Fall Update to the XBOX 360 which enabled countless features.
I'm not a console guy, so I may be mistaken, but don't you have to pay a subscription fee for xbox live to get those kind of updates?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648079 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:54:45 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648001 Enlightener : Funny, this didn't seem to stop Microsoft from releasing the Fall Update to the XBOX 360 which enabled countless features.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17648001 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:42:31 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647951 Jim Gurd :
said by russotto See Profile :

It's crazy enough to be true. Sarbanes-Oxley is a major albatross around the necks of every public company in the US.
True that. :(
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said by Corona See Profile :

There's other ways they could've gotten around the $5 fee.

Hell, give the users back a "free" $5 itunes card, or do a rebate or something. By charging $5 for it without giving them anything but the firmware makes them look like greedy bastards. I'm sure there's proper accounting methods to follow, it's just that they don't want to go through the hassle.
Do you know how expensive for any company to run a rebate program? Charging $5 barely breaks even the costs of process the $5 revenue. Apple won't make much money of this (if any).

Of course, as a user you may have all kinds of reasons to get mad, but the new accounting rule is much less forgiving than a few angry customers in this case. Besides, some people are never happy about anything anyway...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647462 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:16:43 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647276 Corona : There's other ways they could've gotten around the $5 fee.

Hell, give the users back a "free" $5 itunes card, or do a rebate or something. By charging $5 for it without giving them anything but the firmware makes them look like greedy bastards. I'm sure there's proper accounting methods to follow, it's just that they don't want to go through the hassle.
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"No, make no mistake. It's not revenge he's after. It's a reckoning."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647276 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:48:10 EDT Re: HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647181 russotto : The problem isn't that they don't want to do the proper accounting. The problem is the way they'd have to account for it.

According to Apple's accountants, if they deliver a free new feature for an existing product, they can't book any of the revenue for that existing product until the time the new feature has been delivered. This is because the new feature is considered part of the existing product, hence the existing product isn't considered "delivered" until the new feature is delivered. Since they've already booked that revenue, they can't deliver the free new feature without risking a trip to Federal "PMITA" prison.

If they charge for it, they can consider it a separate product and there's no problem.

It's crazy enough to be true. Sarbanes-Oxley is a major albatross around the necks of every public company in the US.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647181 Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:37:38 EDT HMM http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17647046 Corona : So because APPLE doesn't want to do the proper accounting, they're charging users for this?

Gimme a break.
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