Rhaas
Premium
join:2005-12-19
Bernie, MO
| 900mhz feelings
I am wanting to deploy a new 900mhz system. Right now I am leaning towards a canopy system, but what about the others? Trango, Waveip?
We already have a WaveRider system deployed and I'm not really interested in deploying another. We have WaveIP's 700mhz system deployed and thus far I've been happy with the equipment - I would like to see a CLI interface to the radios though.
I've read good things about the canopy 900 system - How does it handle noisy environments? What about the 'Cyclone' AP's?
If those of you having above mentioned equipment - If you had to do it all over would you use the same thing or would you change?
Thanks ahead of time. I appreciate all the input I recieve from the people here. |
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AnonDOG
@kaballero.com
| Rhaas;
We have a hybrid system of Canopy 900 that uses Tranzeo 5.2/5.8 for PtP backhauls.
We are still running a Cyclone 5.8 120 degree sector that served as a point to multipoint backhaul for our first year.
We like our Canopy 900 gear. Our nearest competitor is Virginia Broadband (good bunch of people). They are an Alvarion shop and they seem to swear by that hardware.
Truthfully I think that any system built by a good company which performs to spec is probably worth your attention depending upon your specific system requirements.
I am currently looking very hard at an SR9 based system. I am very interested in what operating systems and hardware people are running under this radio and how they are managing CPE costs on SR9 systems.
Canopy does handle noise well enough. Cyclone hardware is excellent stuff. If we had it to do over again we would probably stick with Canopy. Canopy is mostly hang and forget do long as you make allowances for seasonal changes.
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AMD Phreak
Premium
join:2003-12-14
| We really like our canopy system. It works great, does pretty good with noise, and handles environmental extremes well. I would order the integrated AP's with the filters so you can further protect yourself from interference. I believe RFLinx also offers a filter that can be installed on the tower top as well if you opt to go with a connectorized version.
For connectorized radios, I would use MTI sectors. I have some in place and they work awesome, although they are a bit pricy.
Doing research as of late, I have inquired with our Alvarion rep about their 900 equipment. It looks solid like Motorolas, and I have deployed a bit of their 4.9 equipment and can say that if the 900 is in the same ballpark, it is well worth the price.
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Using a non-ports-system OS is like masturbating with a cheese grater
"No job is so important, and no service is so urgent that we cannot take the time to do it safely."
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goldenspacek
join:2005-04-22
Pinckney, MI
| reply to Rhaas
I agree with Moto, the Tranzeo units I used didn't test anywhere near as well. As for the integrated units with a filter, do NOT buy them. We used the integrated units and connectorized ones with 120 degree sectors. The connectorized ones had way better range and performance. You can buy filters for them if you want, we have polys on ours. |
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Rhaas
Premium
join:2005-12-19
Bernie, MO
| reply to Rhaas
Wow, thanks again guys I appreciate the input!
As far as requirements for the system - The primary one is reliability - I'm a one man band right now and I don't have the time to deal with flaky equipment - hang and forget sound appealing. We sell two service levels - 512k/128k and 1.5M/384k it looks like the moto will handle that as well.
Goldenspacek: What is the problem with the filters? Did they hinder distance/performance?
The tower we are looking to deploy on is 580', but stands on a 200' ridge. So even if I stick the AP 100' up, I still end up being 300' above the surrounding areas. I'm afraid being that high it is going to be pounded by noise.
Thanks again. |
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Semaphore
Premium
join:2003-11-18
Arnprior On. | We have 3 Moto 900's and would never consider anything else for that band in our environment. |
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milbrath
join:2006-03-27
Dresden, TN | I lke our Moto gear quite well, though I am convinced it lies through it's teeth about the true RSSI and dbm levels.
BM |
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AMD Phreak
Premium
join:2003-12-14
| I would like to know what the issue with the internal filter is. I have two in use and they work great.
For the subs, definately go with connectorized radios, and add your prefered antenna, yagi or panel.
Remember to adjust your transmitters output in the canopy config page to ensure that you are within fcc spec.
Your rate plan offerings will be just fine.
Are you tying this into a RADIUS authentication system or are you looking at using Prizm/BAM?
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Using a non-ports-system OS is like masturbating with a cheese grater
"No job is so important, and no service is so urgent that we cannot take the time to do it safely."
-- AT&T |
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Rhaas
Premium
join:2005-12-19
Bernie, MO
| We use PPPoE which does the authentication and bandwidth limiting.
I'm looking at perhaps starting with 2 or 3 sectors. I see AES mentioned - am I correct in assuming that it is some type of over the air encryption? Is there any reason to use the AES version over the other?
Does the canopy system require the 'BAM' to manage it? |
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AMD Phreak
Premium
join:2003-12-14
| Do you NEED AES encryption? It jacks the price of the AP's and SM' sky high. Typically everyone that I know just uses the regular DES units, which are the standard units. If you are building a network to support banks, government applications, etc etc then yes. IIRC it is required. And it is over the air. Think of it as WPA is like tea, and AES is like truck stop coffee. 
Canopy does not require BAM. All BAM is used for is, authentication and it does provisioning. You could just use something like RADIUS and your MT system to control speeds. I think there are a few guys around here who do such. I really like BAM personally, as it makes changing rate plans easy. Now they have Prizm, which does it all, from network monitoring to provisioning, through a fancy gui.
You can also create redundant BAM servers, which is what we do.
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Using a non-ports-system OS is like masturbating with a cheese grater
"No job is so important, and no service is so urgent that we cannot take the time to do it safely."
-- AT&T |
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