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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to 11337845

Re: Ad-skipping is a nice feature, but

said by 11337845:

No, that would not be OK with me, and in that case I would not watch that programming. Vote with your remote.
Yeah, but if one network does it, then more will do it so you will have no choice.

Larry Sanders - "NO FLIPPING!"

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

reply to ross

said by ross:

Commercials are a necessary evil for over the air, free TV. They are not inherently wrong in that circumstance, but even in that arena, the commercials that RAISE THE VOLUME OF YOUR TV WHILE THEY ARE BEING AIRED certainly do strain ones nerves.
I agree with what you said except the above statement.

Commercials do NOT raise the volume (yet.) What they do is hit the upper level of the sound spectrum more often. If sound goes above those upper levels, it sounds distorted. So while the commercials may sound louder, they are sound mixed to sound louder.

11337845
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reply to moonpuppy
Then don't watch any of them. Is that really a tough concept?
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moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

said by 11337845:

Then don't watch any of them. Is that really a tough concept?
I highly doubt you would be one to give up TV.

I much prefer not to buy the products or services of the offending commercials.

11337845
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Except for the news and sports, I hardly watch it. I don't have any shows that I watch now, and I don't even know if I'll bother with Lost when it comes back.
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dvd536
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Phoenix, AZ
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reply to 11337845

said by 11337845:

The networks and their advertisers have every right to expect that the money paid for their ads (many thousands of dollars per ad, billions a year) aren't being completely wasted. I agree that many commercials are downright horrible, and I'd like to see the entertainment industry give me a decent reason to watch them, but that doesn't make them wrong.
Product placement is the way to go. if you annoy me with your forced ad, guess what i'm NOT going to buy?
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ROCINANTE
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reply to PDXPLT
OK, I have to simplify this for the short bus riders. I was discussing perception, not the legal terms in the TOS. Think in terms of the average customer who probably does not read the TOS. A customer owns a box for 5 years and has been skipping commercials during that time. Part of that functionality is now taken away. How would that customer feel?
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RideRed
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join:2005-06-18
USA

reply to 11337845

said by 11337845:

I don't think that's why people do (or should) pay the monthly fee. Tivo, even with ads, is a handy device that makes watching TV on one's own schedule about as easy as it can get.
Wrong. I am a TiVo subscriber who bought it to avoid ads and if I have to deal with the banner ads I see no point in paying for it when there are cheaper alternatives that work better.

My sense of entitlement comes from the $156 a year I pay them plus the cost of the box...remembering monthly the 30% fee increase I saw since buying it.

ross

join:2000-08-16

reply to moonpuppy

said by moonpuppy:

said by ross:

Commercials are a necessary evil for over the air, free TV. They are not inherently wrong in that circumstance, but even in that arena, the commercials that RAISE THE VOLUME OF YOUR TV WHILE THEY ARE BEING AIRED certainly do strain ones nerves.
I agree with what you said except the above statement.

Commercials do NOT raise the volume (yet.) What they do is hit the upper level of the sound spectrum more often. If sound goes above those upper levels, it sounds distorted. So while the commercials may sound louder, they are sound mixed to sound louder.
I can't argue your science, but I can tell you what effect results; LOUD SOUND FROM COMMERCIALS, much LOUDER than the normal sound level of the programing it interrupts.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

said by ross:

I can't argue your science, but I can tell you what effect results; LOUD SOUND FROM COMMERCIALS, much LOUDER than the normal sound level of the programing it interrupts.
No argument on that issue at all. I totally agree that while they may not be raising the volume, the engineering of the sound to make it seem louder is intrusive to say the least.

At least they aren't like Comcast which constantly over-deviates and distorts their sound on their commercials.

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