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join:2002-09-10
Montreal, QC
clubs:  | reply to gmsron
Re: Need help with gnet bb0060a
IF you find out how to keep that junk stable, let me know, my 60a is sitting in the "to toss" bin. |
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Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Hi,
Have you tried a tweak like this:
modify dsl config multi txatten 1 gain 7 txstart 1 txend 32 rxstart 40 rxbinadj enable bitswap enable maxdnrate 0x1ff
(this is a single-line entry from my 'commitedcfg.cfg' test file)
That's line-specific, euh... and 'DMT' is a lot easier to use!...
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gmsron
@primus.ca
| Hmm... I tried to interpret that line and put it in dmt. It made it a bit more stable, but I still disconnect. Not as frequently though.
Here's a screenshot
»img16.imagevenue.com/view.php?im···45lo.JPG |
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subtle
Janitor
join:2000-11-17
fishing | The link to the screenshot does not appear to be correct. |
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bumbo
join:2002-11-20
Corunna, ON | haha that's an understatement haha |
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gmsron
@primus.ca
| It works for me?....have you tried copying the link location?...copying and pasting it wont work.
Cick here.....
or copy and paste this
img16.imagevenue.com/view.php?image=00595_dmt_122_345lo.JPG |
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MikeG
Premium
join:2004-10-02
Hamilton, ON | Its a different picture everytime lol...
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Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | reply to gmsron
Hi,
I wish i had nice graphics to explain what i guess
it does, instead i only got this late test sample:
DMT - US/DS frequency bands/Tx Bin Adjust: [ ]
TelNet - modify dsl config txbinadj enable
DMT - Upstream (TX) Bins: 6 - 13
TelNet - modify dsl config rxstart 6
TelNet - modify dsl config rxend 13
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DMT - US/DS frequency bands/Rx Bin Adjust: [ ]
TelNet - modify dsl config rxbinadj enable
DMT - Downstream (RX) Bins: 14 - 248
TelNet - modify dsl config rxstart 14
TelNet - modify dsl config rxend 248
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DMT - ec fdm mode: FDM
TelNet - modify dsl config ecfdmmode fdm
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DMT - Tx Power Atten.: -1 dB
TelNet - modify dsl config txatten 1
WEB - Local Tx Power: 6.36 dB (11.95)
WEB - Remote Line Atten.: 27.0 dB (30)
WEB - LS0(kbps)-Up/Fast: 256 (800)
WEB - Remote SNR Margin: 8.0 dB
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DMT - Coding Gain: 7 dB
TelNet - modify dsl config gain 7
WEB - Local Line Atten.: 30.0 dB
WEB - AS0(kbps)-Down/Fast: 4032
WEB - Local SNR Margin: 23.5 dB (18-21.5)
If you try tweaks based on the CLI TelNet commands
instead, type "commit" then "reboot" in the end...
The DMT part was tested before i checked my TelNet
one, today's numbers varry somewhat (19.5 -> 22 dB
Local SNR Margin improvement, starting with a non-
optimized 'commitedcfg.cfg' file) then my CLI fix.
My understanding is that i reshaped the juxtaposed
UpStream (1-70) and DownStream (10-255) bandwidths
of the DSL signal so that it will suit my specific
phone-line conditions better. It really helped me
a lot to use the 'DMT' utility while searching for
my own sweet spot; i'm sure there could have been
a few more variations to try but it already raises
my Local SNR Margin by 2.5 dB and lowers my Remote
Line attenuation level by 3 dB, with no noticeable
effect on the other parameters. Well, i'm puzzled
quite a bit, actually, because my TelNet test gets
a nice 4032/800 Kbps profile when it was 4032/256!
Hummm... Perhaps this is where the 1.5 dB SNR gap
between 23.5 dB (DMT) and 22 dB (CLI) has gone!...
I think i'll need to investigate this, eventually!
Addendum
Here's a nice graphic:
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Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | Oh... I can see it now, typos around "tx" and "rx"!...
'DMT' can read back the resulting values and i produced
an overlapped configuration! I didn't think i could...
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gmsron
@primus.ca
| reply to Bicephale
Hmm...
»img259.imageshack.us/img259/1153/dmt8bm.jpg
I'll test those settings out in a bit |
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Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
1 edit | reply to Bicephale
Hi,
According to the graphic above you need to click on the
[On] button of the "automatic DSL-monitoring" field and
to check "activate Auto-DSL-Monitoring on startup" too.
Keep in mind that numbers which are right over here may
not be optimal for the kind of problem you're facing...
I'd say that Tx = 1 to 32 and Rx = 40 to 255 happens to
be the default configuration. You can try to sacrifice
some UpStream bandwidth to improve the DownStream side.
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gmsron
@primus.ca
| Tried out the settings you had in the test. I'm not disconnecting, but the download speed is very very slow. The upload is also really slow. I'm not sure what settings affect what. So, I'm not sure how I would even sacrafice upstream for downstream.
»img407.imageshack.us/img407/7277/dmt1jz.jpg |
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Bicephale
join:2005-09-24
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Hi,
I guess the UpStream signal still has some room at
-1 dB, i'd try -2 or even -3 dB but the SNR figure
associated to it must remain above 6 dB. UpStream
speed can be made lower (i use 288 Kbps right now)
and, euh... Oh my God! 7808 KBps! I'm sure that
isn't your true DownLoad speed!... Well, it would
still be 4032 Kbps if you use bins #36 to #248 but
this device reacts slightly differently than mine.
If only 7808 KBps was real! I tried other numbers
for the "max. Bits/Bin" field in the "Limitations"
section but 14 was about right for me, i'd give it
a try once you found a sweeter spot. I'd say that
a practical limit for the DownStream bins would be
around #70 and #192 for the lower and upper edges,
respectively. I'll explain. Here's what i gather
from my tweak sessions so far: your "start" field
(the one associated to the DownStream line) can go
as low as 14 but as high as 70, if i'm correct. A
lower Start Bin brings your two bandwidths closer,
which exposes the DownStream signal to distortions
associated to the UpStream one; hence causing the
MoDem to disconnect more frequently - should noise
be your actual problem. Raising the Start Bin can
create enough void between the bandwidths to bring
the error rate down but you have to know that this
also affects the DownStream SNR figure because the
function between the number of bins and SNR is not
linear (it's probably closer to an asymetric bell-
shaped curve instead)... In short, the DownStream
bandwidth should have some clearance from UpStream
noise but not too much because the SNR will suffer
past a given point - SNR seems to depend on width,
the larger the better but too much of it and noise
from the UpStream band would be too close. As for
the DownStream End Bin, this one's behaviour seems
much easier to grasp: attenuation goes up rapidly
as a function of frequency and a point comes where
noise is predominant; the lower this edge is kept
the less attenuation (hence noise) you get - but a
lower End Bin would mean less bandwidth and past a
sweet spot the SNR goes down again. As i wrote, i
would have needed a graphic illustration for this,
i hope my long explanations didn't discourage you!
Finally, if you're goal is to obtain a stable link
and peer-to-peer performance, euh... i'm afraid i
could only buy you some time until a better fix to
your specific situation can be found. These tweak
trics only have marginal effects on signal quality
in the end, we may be talking about 2-3 dB here...
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gmsron
@primus.ca | reply to Bicephale
I give up... I tried a bunch of different settings, but the download speed would always be very low and if it were at even half my regular speeds...then it disconnects. Tweaking modem settings isn't for me. Thanks for all the help though. |
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