Jon
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join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
| OH NO!
You'll have to look at this for 3 seconds while you FF through commercials..
Big deal, get over it.  |
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11337845
Live free or die
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join:2002-12-20
Seattle, WA
| Exactly. It's not like it's going to be super-imposed over the actual programming, and so far I haven't seen anything that says they're going to increase the time it takes to skip past ads.
What's the problem here? Did any of you really think the TV networks and their advertisers were going to stand by and let people waste their money? If you want to watch content that is from an ad-based network, you really shouldn't expect to be able to screw them over and they just take it like a grain of salt.
Realistically, this is like complaining about commercials on basic cable because "I already pay for it."
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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said by Jon  :You'll have to look at this for 3 seconds while you FF through commercials.. Big deal, get over it. Its not totally about having to look at the commercial. It is more about the entire industry wanting to pluck every penny they can and provide basically nothing for the customer. When cable first came out, it was touted as a pay service with less, or no, commercials. AS time marched on they have slowly added more and more into the mix and when people found ways to bypass them, they are shoving them further down our throats.
Our country is quiickly going the way of pay for everything and get nothing. And before someone says it, yes, it has been mentioned in my household several times, mainly in a joking manner, that maybe it is time to think about Scottland.. 
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11337845
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join:2002-12-20
Seattle, WA
| The "entertainment industry" doesn't lose money directly because of Tivo. However, before this they received no compensation whatsoever, while at the same time advertisers became less willing to pay the same rates as Tivo subscribership grew.
If you don't want commercials, watch only content that isn't from an ad-based medium such as broadcast television. It's really pretty simple. You don't have the right to demand content for free which costs hundreds of thousands, if not millions, per an episode.
Perhaps the broadcast networks need to improve/change their chosen business scheme (I certainly agree that the movie industry needs to adapt to the digital age without treating paying customers like shit), but that doesn't make them wrong for expecting you, the customer, to watch their content on their terms.
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
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join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
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"that maybe it is time to think about Scottland.. "
Did you mean Scotland? 
They have commercials there too by the way
Hob
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ropeguru
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Bridgeport, WV
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| said by hobgoblin :"that maybe it is time to think about Scottland.. " Did you mean Scotland? They have commercials there too by the way Hob Yeah... Fat fingers doing double time... :-D
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| reply to 11337845
jerkstore - You might as well save your breath because some folks, no matter how you try to explain it will never understand how (unobtrusive) these ads really are. I've seen them and I have to say that they will in no way keep me from dropping my TiVo.
TiVo is great as is and needs no help from Apple! |
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ropeguru
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Bridgeport, WV
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said by 11337845 :The "entertainment industry" doesn't lose money directly because of Tivo. However, before this they received no compensation whatsoever, while at the same time advertisers became less willing to pay the same rates as Tivo subscribership grew. Please give me your definition of who the entertainment industry is. I want to be sure I am using the same before I comment.
said by 11337845 :If you don't want commercials, watch only content that isn't from an ad-based medium such as broadcast television. It's really pretty simple. You don't have the right to demand content for free which costs hundreds of thousands, if not millions, per an episode. I am not demanding content for free. Seems as though someone is double dipping to boost profits. Let's take a station like TBS for example. They run a movie that is typically 90 minutes long. In most cases, espicially on weekends and holidays, they push the movie length out 120 minutes or longer to get in all the ads. So, in thise case the ads pay for the running of the movie as advertisers are paying for those time slots. Next, TBS signs a contract to allow Comcast to broadcast its content across the cable system for its subscribers. Then I in turn pay comcast for the "privilege" of being able to access TBS. So here, money for TBS flows in from both the advertisers and Comcast and they reap the profits. So if the advertisers are paying the expense to run a movie, then why should I as a cable customer have to watch the commercials? Or even a satellite customer for that matter.
said by 11337845 :Perhaps the broadcast networks need to improve/change their chosen business scheme (I certainly agree that the movie industry needs to adapt to the digital age without treating paying customers like shit), but that doesn't make them wrong for expecting you, the customer, to watch their content on their terms. I agree with you about the brodcasting industry here and that is where my comment came in about this country bowing to the big business and screw the customer. It also comes down to issues where they have the bucks to payoff congress critters and others to push different types of standards that ultimately force the end user to not be able to bypass said commercials.
Additionally, all these terms that are starting to be pushed by all big business is starting to wear on many peoples nerves. But as long as they have the money to bribe, there is unfotunately nothing we can do about it but take it up the rear.
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ross
join:2000-08-16
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said by Jon :You'll have to look at this for 3 seconds while you FF through commercials.. Big deal, get over it. I'll get over it when YOU start paying for my TIVO subscription. Maybe you and jerkoffjerkstore can split it... |
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Jon
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join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
1 edit | said by ross :I'll get over it when YOU start paying for my TIVO subscription. Maybe you and jerkoffjerkstore can split it... Like I said above, If your not happy with the service, Don't pay for it. Find another option like PVR or MythTV or whatever. There are others out there.
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
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So if the advertisers are paying the expense to run a movie, then why should I as a cable customer have to watch the commercials?
Er, because next time TBS goes to these advertisers for funding, they might say, "We won't pay that price again. Half the viewers Tivo'd it and never saw our ads!" maybe?
How they come up with the estimate is irrelevant. The point remains that advertisers will claim--with or without hard evidence--that some percent of viewers skipped the ad entirely, and will pay less money.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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said by Jon :You'll have to look at this for 3 seconds while you FF through commercials.. Big deal, get over it. but then it gets bigger and bigger if people take this attitude.
Watched CNN lately?
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