richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
|  Tell Me Why
Why can't some company come up with a device that simply records a program. No subscription, no adds, not reporting to big marketing my viewing habits. It will a box with a power cord, video in video out and nothing else. Till then I am sticking to VHS. |
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Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
| said by richardpor  :Why can't some company come up with a device that simply records a program. No subscription, no adds, not reporting to big marketing my viewing habits. It will a box with a power cord, video in video out and nothing else. Till then I am sticking to VHS. It's called a PVR and you can do it on your computer.
Everyone that's bitching about the banners should build one.
No subscription fee, Do what ever the hell you want and quit bitching! |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
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Something like... »www.mysettopbox.tv |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs:
 ·VOIPo
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said by Jon :said by richardpor :Why can't some company come up with a device that simply records a program. No subscription, no adds, not reporting to big marketing my viewing habits. It will a box with a power cord, video in video out and nothing else. Till then I am sticking to VHS. It's called a PVR and you can do it on your computer. Everyone that's bitching about the banners should build one. No subscription fee, Do what ever the hell you want and quit bitching! Yeah, and what are you going to do with that PVR once the media comapnies push for all their digital crap and the only way you will be able to record is if you are home to manually change the channel??
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Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
| said by ropeguru :said by Jon :said by richardpor :Why can't some company come up with a device that simply records a program. No subscription, no adds, not reporting to big marketing my viewing habits. It will a box with a power cord, video in video out and nothing else. Till then I am sticking to VHS. It's called a PVR and you can do it on your computer. Everyone that's bitching about the banners should build one. No subscription fee, Do what ever the hell you want and quit bitching! Yeah, and what are you going to do with that PVR once the media comapnies push for all their digital crap and the only way you will be able to record is if you are home to manually change the channel?? Someone will come up with some other way to do it I'm sure.
My point is, there are other options. If people are paying for something and their not happy with it, Move on to another solution. No one is forcing anyone to pay for or stay with Tivo. |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
clubs: | True, but unfortunately most are not as computer savvy and literate as us either.
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NPGMBR
join:2001-03-28
Arlington, VA
| reply to richardpor
Simply put: Time Warner, ESPN, Disney, NBC, ABC, CBS, RIAA, MPAA, Comcast, COX, Verizon, AT&T, Sony/BMG, Universal, Virgin and all the other big Entertainment companies that pay the networks for your attention.
Don't forget that those FREE shows you watch on NBC, ABC, CBS and others are paid for by those commercials. |
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Johnny
Premium
join:2001-06-27
Atlanta, GA
 ·Comcast
| reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru :Yeah, and what are you going to do with that PVR once the media comapnies push for all their digital crap and the only way you will be able to record is if you are home to manually change the channel?? The computer would have the broadcast schedule from the web, and it would control the cable box via the required-by-law FireWire interface. No monthly fees.
A really clever one would let you "mark" the in and out points of each commercial for a particular regularly-broadcast show, and then remember how long the commercial break was and skip the whole thing next time you played back an episode of the same show.
E.g., record an episode of NBC's Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip.
Play it back. As you watch, hit the "Commercial Start" button on the remote when a commercial break starts, then fast forward as usual to the end of the commercial break, then hit "Commercial End". This tells the box where in the 60 minutes the commercial breaks are for this show and how long each one is.
Next time it plays back an episode of that show, it will skip precisely at those times and for those number of seconds. No fast-forwarding needed.
To defeat this, the networks would have to change radically the way they edit and produce the shows so as to randomly assign commercial break time.
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dentman42
join:2001-10-02
Columbus, OH
 ·AT&T Midwest
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There are non-Tivo DVRs already on the market. I have two, one from Radio Shack (Accurian, a re-badged Lite-On 5045), and a Philips. No subscription required. Both of mine are combo DVD/HDD recorders. Works pretty much like a VCR but using HDD or DVD instead of tape, and adding additional features like the "timeshift" for live TV, and some editing capabilities. (Sad thing is, I've managed to fill up both drives, 80 gig on the LiteOn rebadge and 160 gig on the Philips).
Looks like some of the Radio Shack stores still have the LiteOn rebadge, it's being closed out at 199.97. (I got mine back in August or September and they were the same price then. I'd guess they're not going any cheaper. Bummer, I was going to wait until they hit blow out prices and pick up a spare.)
I haven't used a VCR since I got my first DVD recorder (except for playback, usually to dub to DVD), but I still have at least 12 working 4 head VHS hifi decks and 3 SuperBeta hifi decks if I need them. (With several thousand tapes, I might wear out a few VCRs if I ever get around to moving them to other media) |
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kdhamann
join:2003-11-08
Medina, OH
| reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru :said by Jon : Yeah, and what are you going to do with that PVR once the media comapnies push for all their digital crap and the only way you will be able to record is if you are home to manually change the channel?? If you use a usb to IR adapter you can have the computer change the channels on the settop box. Many PVR software programs will do this already. When the digital is converted to analog (with all the legacy TVs this must be available), the analog signal will go in the capture card. |
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richardpor
Fur it up
join:2003-04-19
Portland, OR
| reply to Jon
said by Jon :said by richardpor :Why can't some company come up with a device that simply records a program. No subscription, no adds, not reporting to big marketing my viewing habits. It will a box with a power cord, video in video out and nothing else. Till then I am sticking to VHS. It's called a PVR and you can do it on your computer. Everyone that's bitching about the banners should build one. No subscription fee, Do what ever the hell you want and quit bitching! If I had the time or motivation to reinvent the wheel I would. I would stick to a DVD recorder or wait fort the commercial free dvd to come out. |
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