 John GaltForward, MarchPremium
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kudos:3 | Network Management Software I am looking for some suggestions of network management software. This is for a very large deployment (~28 backbone nodes and >10,000 subscribers). The specified hardware has SNMP and MIBs.
I fully expect to pay (a lot) for this, so suggestions of "freeware" or "cheapware" are not really necessary.
Price is no object (well, a $1B is a bit much)...so suggest away. A clue about the approximate cost would be helpful (so I don't have to waste a bunch of time talking to sales drones (no disrespect intended, lurking SalesDrones!).
Feel free to contact me off-list.
Thanks in advance!
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| said by John Galt:I am looking for some suggestions of network management software. This is for a very large deployment (~28 backbone nodes and >10,000 subscribers). The specified hardware has SNMP and MIBs. I fully expect to pay (a lot) for this, so suggestions of "freeware" or "cheapware" are not really necessary. Price is no object (well, a $1B is a bit much)...so suggest away. A clue about the approximate cost would be helpful (so I don't have to waste a bunch of time talking to sales drones (no disrespect intended, lurking SalesDrones!). Feel free to contact me off-list. Thanks in advance! www.ipswitch.com What's up Professional, I use it, nice product |
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said by John Galt:I am looking for some suggestions of network management software. This is for a very large deployment (~28 backbone nodes and >10,000 subscribers). The specified hardware has SNMP and MIBs. What specifically are you want to do? If it is just monitoring, then there are a LOT of very nice options available. Intermapper is one of the best I've seen, though I found it a bit pricy. For your application, it will not be very much on a per node basis, however. You can find it here: »dartware.com/products/intermapper/index.html
If you are looking more for real management options, HP Openview may be a better choice, though that is likely to be a BIG difference in price. I'm not certain on their price structure, so I'm not sure about that.
These are the only 2 that I have used much at all in the commercial arena. I have a bit more experience with HP Openview, but not a lot. Intermapper is a really nice application.
I fully expect to pay (a lot) for this, so suggestions of "freeware" or "cheapware" are not really necessary. Then, there are the freeware things. Don't overlook these options. Many of these are VERY good applications. You can spend the $$ you have set aside for the software and pay an employee or consultant (not me) some bucks to learn it very well, and even some training for existing employees. I'm not one that advocates freeware over commercial just because it's "open source or die"...but sometimes it makes sense to use this option. 
Price is no object
Price is always an object. It may be that in this case it is not a primary deciding factor, but it is certainly a part of the decision.
Feel free to contact me off-list.
What, and have everyone else miss out on the fun? Nah...:)
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 sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
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Are you looking to monitor every sub?
Here's some quick stats on some of the people who have chosen to share how many nodes/services they monitor with Nagios:
»www.nagios.org/userprofiles/quickstats.php
It's a ton of work to setup, and you'll need a beefy box to poll 10,000 nodes, but it is doable. HP OpenView or other big commercial products will also have a very steep learning curve and need lots of hardware - and possibly a "consultant" to get the whole thing running. |
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HP Openview is a good choice.
»h20229.www2.hp.com/
However, cacti and MRTG should be pretty simple to deploy as well just because it's free doesn't make it bad.
Want support? Try »www.paessler.com/prtg at one time a simple to deploy and use MRTG derivitave. $1,495.00 for unlimited sensors. Demo available here: »prtgdemo1.paessler.com:8080/login.htm
Groundwork is a nice open source/commerical solution: »www.groundworkopensource.com/ with an ISO evaluation CD »www.groundworkopensource.com/dow···oad.html
Decided to use MRTG and need MIBs? »www.somix.com/support/mrtg_repository.php Somix also has a nice MRTG derivitave themselves.
All very interesting and viable solutions. Hope this list helps someone. |
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Just to clarify, is this network one that is deployed already or one that will be deployed?
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kudos:1 | I use WhatsUp Pro but haven't learned to use all of the features. I upgraded it from Gold.
I had a build of MRTG that was using flat files but the performance was pathetic. Later I had a student rebuild it and told him to set it up using a MySQL db but found out that he cheated after he was long gone. I eventually decided to go with Somix.
I also have a collection of Fluke tools and software and manage my HP switches with ProCurve Manager Plus. |
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BTW, monitoring this many nodes too frequently will use a bit of bandwidth as well. |
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 vipermCarpe DiemPremium
join:2002-07-09
Winchester, CA | reply to John Galt
I say HP openview as well |
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John GaltForward, MarchPremium
join:2004-09-30
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said by dongato17:Just to clarify, is this network one that is deployed already or one that will be deployed? To be deployed.
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 gmcintireGrahamPremium
join:2005-08-09
Blue Ridge, TX | reply to John Galt
I'd suggest taking a look at OpenNMS (»www.opennms.org) It's open source and designed as an alternative to systems such as Tivoli and OpenView. Don't think open source = cheap product though, it's designed specifically to handle extremely large networks with a minimal amount of network traffic. |
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A company I am familiar with operates a NMS for well over 100,000 nodes monitoring several individual (separate) company networks, using HP OpenView. I don't know the product, but they explained it to me that they have X number of collectors, which feed up to the aggregators and they feed the top level management consoles. Sure looked impressive. I also got the impression it was a PITA to configure, and wickedly expensive |
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canadiancreeCrusin in the boonies
join:2004-02-10
Charlottetown, PE | said by Semaphore:A company I am familiar with operates a NMS for well over 100,000 nodes monitoring several individual (separate) company networks, using HP OpenView. I don't know the product, but they explained it to me that they have X number of collectors, which feed up to the aggregators and they feed the top level management consoles. Sure looked impressive. I also got the impression it was a PITA to configure, and wickedly expensive As a former user of this product during my time with Hewlett Packard, I'll confirm this assessment. Most of the time they have consultants configure the thing for the customer, in fact if I recall correctly they recommend it. As for price let's just say that most of us would LOVE to have that amount for a budget.
BTW Intresting fidn on OpenNMS. Hopefully they have a topology like interface that HP's product had. I found that to be very handy. |
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lutfulPremium
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AdventNet will customize OpManager for your exact specifications including a custom NOC GUI with your logo.
You can download "off-the-shelf" versions here:
»manageengine.adventnet.com/produ···dex.html
Indian software companies are very affordable. |
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John GaltForward, MarchPremium
join:2004-09-30
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Thanks for everyone's comments and recommendations.
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Re: Network Management Software Mod note: commercial posts are not allowed. |
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www.solarwinds.com - cirrus..
Very nice item, just started using it - priced right too.. |
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