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Cuchulainn
The Roar of the Masses Could be Farts

join:2000-11-09
Chevy Chase, MD

Broadband = Prosperity???

As I've said before. How does broadband promote economic development?

expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

The upstate NY area needs economic development and MAJOR policy/tax overhauls that lead to corporate investment in the area.

Broadband doesn't fit into the picture. This is bullshit, its got to be someone's pet project.

"I don't give a rat's ass that they have broadband in Upstate NY, their taxes are the highest in the nation", (quoted by -insert your fav CEO's name here-)


Gfox25

join:2002-07-25
Richmond Hill, NY

reply to Cuchulainn
By providing knowledge and communications to the people. That allows them to expand world wide, better invest in markets, etc. etc.



cableties
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join:2005-01-27
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reply to expert007
Upstate NY also includes 6 Million acres of Adirondack park. It doesn't need broadband (folks are content enough with camping).
Besides, there is a big spin of anti-wind power (pun). The farmers (nice people, but not ideal for internet surfers...they have to farm and the net ain't helpin, doncha know). They need more ways to keep costs down up there.
Instead, the bleedover from VT is crossing the Champlain and I think they will want another bridge.
I agree. Someone is wanting to make money off the state.

(I love going upstate and saying, You can't reach me. There is little or no cell access. And net access is dialup). So peaceful. Look a woodpecker. And a heron. And trout. And a black bear..)


expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

reply to Gfox25
Of course, knowledge and communications are always good, but NY's problems are due in large part to a systemic lack of external investment into the state.

And IF the broadband initiative is 100% private, thats alright. Too often however, state and local govt's use taxpayer dollars to compete with private ISP's in the broadband space!

One things for sure, broadband WILL allow speed the process for businesses looking to grow their operations externally of NYS.



Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
kudos:30

reply to expert007
Technically I guess the broadband access improvements are a small part of the plan, which includes tax cuts and other projects....

As a native of Binghamton, I'll note it's desperately needed.



kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

reply to Cuchulainn

said by Cuchulainn:

As I've said before. How does broadband promote economic development?
As others proved before: better broadband DOES* provide economic development.

* assuming other things ie educated workforce, Western World-level security and laws etc in place - in other words if Baghdad would get 1Gb sync connection in every room of every building it still wouldn't make any difference over there...
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kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY

reply to expert007

said by expert007:

Of course, knowledge and communications are always good, but NY's problems are due in large part to a systemic lack of external investment into the state.

And IF the broadband initiative is 100% private, thats alright. Too often however, state and local govt's use taxpayer dollars to compete with private ISP's in the broadband space!

One things for sure, broadband WILL allow speed the process for businesses looking to grow their operations externally of NYS.
Ohh, pleahhhhse... this is the classic BS mantra cable and telco use when they try to block great muni projects.
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expert007

join:2006-01-10
Buffalo, NY

Well, I'm neither cable or telco, and it pisses me off that my tax dollars go towards installing muni wi-fi projects so that J. Schmoe can view the lastest Youtube vids on his notebook while he eats outside. Or, so that some boat owner can dock his 32' Maxum and check his email. You call THAT economic development? I think its pretty naive to think that muni wifi actually increases productivity and serves the taxpayers well. Prove me wrong.



Karl Bode
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»www.dti.gov.uk/files/file13262.pdf

When done right, it can.

Voters have to be smart enough to vote down dumb projects though, which is clearly a tall task. Generally not helped by disinformation PR campaigns by free-marketeers and incumbent pr folk. But suggesting what other towns can or can't do or vote on to me is ceaselessly annoying....



fAcEtIOUs
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join:2002-03-03
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reply to expert007

said by expert007:

Of course, knowledge and communications are always good, but NY's problems are due in large part to a systemic lack of external investment into the state.
And a crushing tax burden. Development moved out of NY because of some of the highest taxes in the country. And putting in broadband subsidized by taxpayers isn't going to bring business back. Those businesses moved south long ago and aren't returning.
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