dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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Re: Pirate Bay should save money for defending lawsuits
The entire idea behind relocating is to avoid inevitable legal issues. What they do may not violate the law, but that can (and likely will) change with the stroke of a pen.
The US entertainment industry has the most to lose, but certainly not the only one with copyrite laws that exist for very good reason. Sweden might be looking the other way now, but the moment their own industries are threatened by pirating, you can bet they'll crack down too.
If you want to "stick it to the man" by downloading copywrited material while wearing your Che Guevera t-shirt in between rants about "Dubya", that's your business... but it's still illegal, and since they exist mostly to facilitate the breaking of the law, I suspect Pirate Bay's days are numbered. |
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
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| My T-SHIRT is Hugo Rafael Chávez, NOT Che Guevera. I don't see Chavez bowing to any pressure from Dubyah. In fact, Chavez provides discount oil in my town, courtesy of Joe Kennedy. Why should Venezuela, or any country, care about US copyright laws? What benefit does ANY person who lives outside of the US see by enforcing US laws? NONE. There is no benefit to any person to obey US law, so the logical conclusion is that those people will choose to ignore it. The only thing the fascist dubyah and his goons could do, would be to ban the internet. And that's not going to happen.
Suck it up. Pirate bays days are NOT numbered, because the PEOPLE of other countries don't see any gain to follow US copyright laws.
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scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA
2 edits | Joe Kennedy. Which one?
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Sr.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy,_Jr.
»oakland.athletics.mlb.com/NASApp···d=406773
If you are referring to the Kennedy family, both Joe's are a little old for Hugo Chavez, seeing as they both died in 1969 and 1944 respectively. While you're at it, you should also note Joe and John were very very anti-communist. Chavez is borderline communist, so I doubt any Kennedy with any sense would be friends with that puke.
You must be thinking of Good ole Ted "Chappaquiddick" Kennedy. I would like to say even he has his limits, but I don't think he does.
People should care about other people ripping off our music and television. One of America's largest exports is our culture. It is a huge economy for us. But I guess that's a little to much for a rich white spoiled college kid to understand. Go work on your Walmart protest signs in your drum circle.
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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Mount Airy, MD
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| said by scrummie02  :You must be thinking of Good ole Ted "Chappaquiddick" Kennedy. I would like to say even he has his limits, but I don't think he does. Gurgle Gurgle! SPLASH!
The more of Hugo Chavez' oil that Massachusetts imports, the less of a need there will be for windmills on Cape Cod 
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karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq | reply to scrummie02
Umm.. Joe Kennedy III.
»www.citizensenergy.com/ |
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scrummie02
Bentley
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA | well I stand corrected.
he's still a "II" though.. |
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dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to karlmarx
said by karlmarx :My T-SHIRT is Hugo Rafael Chávez, NOT Che Guevera.
Close enough.
I don't see Chavez bowing to any pressure from Dubyah. In fact, Chavez provides discount oil in my town, courtesy of Joe Kennedy. Why should Venezuela, or any country, care about US copyright laws? What benefit does ANY person who lives outside of the US see by enforcing US laws? Other countries do benefit in this area, since copyright treaties or agreements also protect the copyright holders in their own country. For instance, Sweden has a pretty large biotech industry; should US pharmacuetical companies be allowed to simply ignore their copyright and produce drugs that Swedish companies paid many millions (or perhaps billions) of dollars to develop? Why would the US honor Swedish copyrights if they didn't honor ours?
Sweden already strenthened their copyright law in 2005; even if Pirate Bay is currently not in violation of the current law, that can change with a stroke of the pen or a court ruling (as I understand, the Swedish Supreme Court hasn't ruled on the matter as it pertains to Pirate Bay yet).
I suppose Pirate Bay could move to a country that isn't a signatory of the relevant treaty, but most developed (and some not so developed) countries are already signatories to the WIPO.
Unfortunately for Hugo, paranoid rants, thuggery and name-calling aren't eligible for copyright protection. |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY
| reply to scrummie02
said by scrummie02 :People should care about other people ripping off our music and television. One of America's largest exports is our culture. It is a huge economy for us. But I guess that's a little to much for a rich white spoiled college kid to understand. Go work on your Walmart protest signs in your drum circle. Oh please, get off your soap box. America may be a service economy in the status quo, but that doesn't mean our cultural exports will be the breaking point for us. I also love the rich white college kids stereotype - nice one. I love the people that post pretending to have some superior sense of moral high ground, especially over stereotyped groups like "rich white college kids." Apparently coming from priveledge and education discredits ones' opinions on resisting corporate oppression.
To the above posters, STOP, you know what you are doing: you are trying to turn this into a Bush discussion. You are associating people who are anti xxAA as being members of the Bushism phenominon. Nice try, but it isn't going to work. The xxAA's history of price fixing and abuse of the court system for their own means and to stifle technological progress gives us firm ground for opposing them. The fact that someone downloads music (it is legal so far I might add) doesn't mean they are a hipocrit. Yes, the situation is fishy, but that is because you assume people shouldn't be able to enjoy art just because they don't agree with the philosophy of the makers. Well guess what, the RIAA doesn't exactly ignore people that refuse to pay them "protection", so in effect they are in some way most likely preventing art from reaching me. Their consistent abuse of the legal system resolves us to not play by their rules. Why should I play the martyr. Also, stop picking on Karlmarx, he may sound like an ignorant Bushism, crypto marxist troll, but he has arguments. Just answer them and move on. There is no need to make generalizations about entire groups of people and of his own personal background just because he fits a certain psychological archetype. |
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