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Re: Pirate Bay should save money for defending lawsuits said by karlmarx: Much to this poster's dismay, the US ISN'T the president of the world. No, Dubyah has ensured that everyone hates us. Um...this topic is about Pirate Bay, not the USA.
Please remain topical and don't go political.
BUT...since you brought it up...
(beginning of flame war?)
Dubyah has ensured everyone hates us? Hmmm...looks like they hated the US before Dubyah b/c while Clinton was in office kissing up to the world, terrorists were already in the US prepping for the attack.
So I guess your solution would be for Dubyah to pull an Al Gore (if he were President during 9/11) and apologize to the terrorists that those two buildings in NYC they crashed into just happened to be in their flight path, and we, as a nation are sorry for building them decades ago and disrupting their flight path.
Yeah, that'll make the world happy with us.
Therefore, no matter what the US does, some in the world will HATE us. So, might as well do what's right and DEFEND our country from the nutjobs in the Middle East (and this is coming from a Lebanese American). | |
wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | Since you brought it up....
How can you consider what we are doing defense? Sure sounds like we are on the attack. Not defending. The defending should be done on our soil. This "war on terror" is an immeasurable, and un-winable "war" at best. Call it what it truely is.. It's protection for the pipeline that the US so desperately desire.
»www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/front.htm
Enjoy!
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| said by wentlanc:Since you brought it up.... How can you consider what we are doing defense? Sure sounds like we are on the attack. Not defending. The defending should be done on our soil. This "war on terror" is an immeasurable, and un-winable "war" at best. Call it what it truely is.. It's protection for the pipeline that the US so desperately desire. » www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/front.htmEnjoy! puritan Hmmm...how can what we are doing be considered defense, what, because we took the war on the OFFENSIVE instead?
So, with your take on it, we need to wait to get hit ala 9/11 again before we do anything else. I guess it would take another 9/11, biological, chemical, or nuclear attack, then, huh? How many thousands, or millions, need to die on OUR SOIL before we do anything else? What we will hear from you liberals is "Bush didn't do anything to defend this country". You liberals have one religion, LIBERALISM. And all you want to do is defeat Bush. Why is it when the democrats suggested more troops for the War on Terror, and now Bush wants more, the Democrats NOW say, NO?!!! Politics. Why is it Charles Rangle put up a bill to bring back the draft a couple of years ago (he tried it again recently), but the bill was voted down, and Rangle voted AGAINST his OWN BILL? Politics. Dems want their power, and don't care about what else happens. They want to run it for their gain, and don't care what happens to the rest of the country. If you liberals would fight the War on Terror like you do Bush, we would have already won the war.
With your logic, I guess the US owes Germany an apology for WWII. We went to war with Germany after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. GERMANY didn't attack us, JAPAN did. I guess the war should have been confined only to Japan, and excluded Germany. I suppose both FDR and Truman need to be impeached for fighting an unjust war.
And why is it that nobody is making a stink about Clinton going into Kosovo? HMMM??? He didn't go throught the UN like Bush did, and he used NATO forces to bomb the country. Nobody on the left fought him on that.
Let's see....
Clinton, doesn't go through UN, attacks Kosovo, gets rid of evil ruler = OK.
Bush, GOES through UN, attacks Iraq, gets rid of evil ruler = BAD.
Yep, that logic makes sense.
Unwinnable war? Yep, its unwinnable. So let's surrender now and start learning the Koran. We have no choice but to fight the war. The alternative would be horrible. You know this thing called free speech that you and I are doing now? We would both be executed for typing these messages.
Oil? How many times do we have to hear the oil theroy from you liberals? If that were the case, why is gas still expensive? Why haven't we tapped into the Middle Eastern oil flow and started cranking out oil for ourselves directly versus letting Iraq handle it themselves and use the revenue generated to rebuild their country?
You libs are way to predicable.
So why not do us a favor and surrender, or pull a Alex Baldwin and move out of the country (oh, wait, he didn't. That's because the US is a lot more comfortable than living under a dictatorship). | |
wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | And while we are securing our pipeline, MILLIONS of people are crossing our borders every year from Mexico. Glad we are killing innocent people in far away lands though. Make me feel safer knowing that we are keeping the bad guys out.... 
The american people are dying a little every day with more and more illegals coming into this country. Lowering the bar for wages. Not contributing into the system that provides assistance back to them. People are starving in our own country. People are in record debt, while corporations like the RIAA, MPAA, oil companies, etc., are making money hand over fist. When do we stop gallavanting around the world, and start worrying about the real issues right here at home?
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| whole separate issue...
but yeah, that's disgusting too. A bunch just got nabbed working on Quantico Marine Base....a MARINE BASE...
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to apollo80
said by apollo80:Clinton, doesn't go through UN, attacks Kosovo , gets rid of evil ruler = OK. Fixed it for you.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milosevic#···esidency
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wentlancYou Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH | reply to scrummie02
Thank you!!!
I'm definitely not a fanatical liberal by any means. But we are spending TONS of money to support the "War on terror" which is making corporations, like Haliburton, and UnoCal, gobs of cash, all in the guise of "National Security".
But with millions of illegals working in the US completely UNKNOWN to the gov, how many of them have alternative motives? And we aren't doing anything to slow their ingress. Sorry, all the bombs, and bullets in Iraq are not fixing that one single bit.
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said by wentlanc:And while we are securing our pipeline, MILLIONS of people are crossing our borders every year from Mexico. Glad we are killing innocent people in far away lands though. Make me feel safer knowing that we are keeping the bad guys out.... The american people are dying a little every day with more and more illegals coming into this country. Lowering the bar for wages. Not contributing into the system that provides assistance back to them. People are starving in our own country. People are in record debt, while corporations like the RIAA, MPAA, oil companies, etc., are making money hand over fist. When do we stop gallavanting around the world, and start worrying about the real issues right here at home? puritan Wow, we actually agree on something. Illegal immigration is a HUGE problem in this country. So you support troops on our borders, too? I'm glad we agree.
Yep, people are starving in our country in the masses, like North Korea. That's why we have such an obesity problem in the US. Yep, that makes sense. Let's compare our system with North Korea, shall we? Or do we bother? N. Korea vs. USA, where would you rather live? We are such a terrible nation...that's why all those illegal immigrants are coming here, right? I don't see people fleeing the USA...this is the most prosperous land in the world. And we feel guilty about it, don't we? We shouldn't be so prosperous. We don't care about anyone else. That's why we are the most generous country in the world. Yep, you got me there.
Real issues at home? The **AA is the real issue at home, not whether or not a terrorist wants to detonate a nuke inside our country. You are SO RIGHT. The **AA IS THE REAL ISSUE HERE. And when the liberals controlled the house, senate, and presidency from 1992-1994, that must have been the most prosperous time ever. Because the liberals want to take care of us. Or, was it because after 1994, the Republicans took back the house and senate because people got sick and tired of the liberal lies?
Hmm...isn't unemployment at incredible lows?
When everyone was upset 4 years ago when unemployment was at 6%, nobody stopped to state that unemployment, under Clinton, during HIS first two years, was...6%. Never heard people complain about that.
So let me ask you...if we can't, or shouldn't, win the war on terror, what good does LOSING it mean? How will it help the USA to lose the war on terror? Will we prosper after we've LOST the war? | |
| reply to pnh102
Ah, I stand corrected. Clinton could't do THAT right. | |
| reply to wentlanc
said by wentlanc:Thank you!!! I'm definitely not a fanatical liberal by any means. But we are spending TONS of money to support the "War on terror" which is making corporations, like Haliburton, and UnoCal, gobs of cash, all in the guise of "National Security". But with millions of illegals working in the US completely UNKNOWN to the gov, how many of them have alternative motives? And we aren't doing anything to slow their ingress. Sorry, all the bombs, and bullets in Iraq are not fixing that one single bit. puritan Ah, yes, that's right. War on terror is a front for corproate america.
Here's a fact that isn't reported broadly in the news.
Profit PERMITTED to be earned by oil companies by US Govermnemt on a gallon of gas. = 9 cents. Oil companies are highly regulated.
National average of state/federal gax tax on a gallon of gas = 40 cents.
Oil companies have had record profits. But, then again, look at the revenue of the government. The federal tax on gas is 18.9 cents a gallon. Wow. The federal and state goverment make much more than corporate american on a gallon of gas.
Don't hear you complaining about that...
Part of the reason almost nothing is being done about illegal immigration, is BOTH parties look at them as potential voters in the future. Can't make a potential voting block mad, can you? BOTH parties are guilty there. And I do agree with you that illegal immigration is a huge problem.
Yep, bullets and bombs in Iraq aren't helping the illegal immigration problem. But since illegal immigration and the War on Terror are apples and oranges, I guess it can't. Neither can the lefts war on the right, the rights war on the left, the war on hunger, the war on AIDS, etc....different wars, my friend.
Do you agree we should have troops on the borders? Hey, how about we take troops out of France and Germany and put them on our borders? I'm all for that !!! | |
| reply to apollo80
said by apollo80:Bush, GOES through UN, attacks Iraq, gets rid of evil ruler = BAD. Last time I checked, Bush did not go through the UN. | |
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Apollo80
Amen to that brother
Damn beautiful post. | |
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