cmaenginsb
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
| reply to Inssomniak
Re: Approaching Municipalities/Private Tower owners?
The real answer is that on the municipality side it's going to vary. We've done installs with no rent charged to us because SBC wouldn't provide broadband to the town. (Less than a year after we setup camp they decided hey it did make sense). I've also dealt with cities with a wide variety of charges for service.
Private towers can be similiar. In some cases something the owner is doing requires him to have broadband their. In other cases vendors like AMT want 500+ per month.
In your case, approach the church and offer free broadband. How you would approach the power tower and water towers would depend on who owns them. The water tower will be both a better and safer bet but usually that means dealing with town politics.
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charlesa920
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join:2007-01-20
Sikeston, MO
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6% seems a little high to me. We are working with a city and offered them either $200 per month or 4%, their choice, either/or. Well they wanted both, 4% of gross with a minimum of $200 per month.
They want engineering drawings, insurance, all normal stuff and pretty easy to do. Just work with the city officials. You will have to pay for their time and work but it is a one time cost. |
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charlesa920
Premium
join:2007-01-20
Sikeston, MO
| reply to LLigetfa
The Sargents run the Army. The Chiefs run the Navy. The inspectors run the City.
I suggest you start with the building inspector for the city. this may seem like you are fishing at the bottom of the barrel but it will pay off. If you can get him onboard with you, he can guide you through the red tape at city hall.
The building inspector is the real guy that knows what is whats in every area of the city. Plus, when you approach him for his advice and help he will take it as a complement. |
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LLigetfa
join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON | reply to milbrath
Don't overlook farmers with tall silos. In many cases they would be so happy to get free fast internet that they would help you get the POP up and running. They may even find you some subs. |
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milbrath
join:2006-03-27
Dresden, TN
| reply to Inssomniak
We have agreements with two cities. The first grants free access to all city offices. The second pays a set amount per customer(~6% of revenue,thats more than they get from sales tax). We have not begun using the water towers in the first agreement, though we have plans to this year.
On the second tower it is understood (verbally) that we will do something for that city like we do for our homecity when the customer base becomes profitable, that is install a free wireless zone for anyone. Here in Dresden we set up multiple AP's for the city park. This was not a requirement for use of the towers, just something we did for the city. The second city has no park so we may just light up downtown or give free access to the community/senior center.
Go talk to an alderman/the mayor, if interested they will have you talk to the people responsible for the maintenance of the water tower, these are the people who will care how you run your cabling, what you mount to... Odd's are the city contracts that work out elsewhere and you will not be the first wireless/cellular person that contractor has delt with, you may find them quite helpful or a pain in the ass... After you have satisified those requirements start talking about the money. At this point you will know what it will cost to get the tower running and can negotiate a rate.
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Inssomniak
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join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON
| I have some capital, and ambition, but nowhere to stick my stuff!
I was hoping to hear from some WISP owners how they approached towns and/or owners of private towers for permission of use of some space on the tower. (and any costs you might incur for the use) I don't (yet) want to get into building my own towers (I don't have THAT much capitol). But wanted to make use of existing structures, some in consideration are a water tower, top of a church bell tower, private tower used for electricity generation. I admittedly don't have that great of people/negotiating skills.
I wanted to contact these potential sites for use, but really, dont know where to begin. I dont want to pay huge
sums of money a month either.
I'm particularly in Southern Ontario, so anyone that has done similar tasks to municipal counties in Canada would be helpful.
Thanks. |
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