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Re: Yep!

At less Bit rate as well!


dadkins
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Playback of some BD movies hits 40mbps.
Any compression is going to trash picture quality and or cause artifacting.

Uhm, no thanks!
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Topmounter
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Even at 40 Mbps HD content is no where near "uncompressed".

HD-DVD AND Blu-ray use either MPEG-2, MPEG-4 (h.264/AVC) or VC-1 to compress their content.


BloodRoses
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...all video is compressed in some form or another, what on EARTH are you on about?


dadkins
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Right!
Y'all are suggesting compressing it further! Screw all that mess!

The format that BD/HD DVDs are at right now, is the highest bitrate of any removable media to date(at consumer level)

More bits usually means closer to original/master, right?

Compressing these things to AVI would be like taking sandpaper to the disc. Yeah! I want to do that!
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BloodRoses
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x264 is extremely compressed already as it is, I don't see any reason to compress it further.

Actually, the bitrate for those is much much much lower than DVD, this is how you can fit HD movies on such a low capacity disc.

More bits just means it's sampled higher. So to answer your question, no.

AVI is a container not a format, and it would be nothing like taking sandpaper to the disc.
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Most movies I've downloaded try to stay within the 700MB range so they can be burnt to CD. I've never downloaded a pure DVD ISO for a video, though I'm sure they exist. I can't imagine swapping BRDVD on the internet.
I think the short term piracy interests of cracking Blue Ray are for swapping over the internet, not to retain the quality.


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Whatever, not going to argue discuss it with you.

If *I* rip a BD, it will be an exact copy(as soon as the encryption is cracked and I can rip it).
I will be using these rips to burn backup copies.

Anyone who thinks they will want to upload something this large for a single video, to anyone... knock your self out!

If anyone does re-encode it with whatever codec for the purpose of shrinking it, have at it! Not my problem, not going to be played back on my machine either!

I don't have to! I can play the original!

EDIT: Just incase anyone wants to see what's inside a BD - see pic.
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The beauty of that is you can store your collection of 1080p movies on a file server and have access to all of them instantly on your TV without ever dealing with any kind of media.

I don't see anything wrong with uploading it, and if I download it at my connections full capacity it would take around 4 hours. Yes, it's slow, but it's still faster than (as a previous poster mentioned) Netflix or any of those other similar services.

Why would they re-encode it? A lot of movies that are on BitTorrent etc. already use MPEG4 profiles of some form or another (some even use x264). It wouldn't make any sense to do that.

What is that picture showing? Your blocky fonts are very hard to read.
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said by BloodRoses See Profile :

What is that picture showing? Your blocky fonts are very hard to read.
What the heck... did you click on it??


BloodRoses
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Yes, I looked at the "original" as the site calls it.


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worked fine for me...


dadkins
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Can you read it now?
Try clicking the image, it does get bigger.

One sec...


BloodRoses
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The sad thing is if I resize that back to 1920x1200, the fonts actually look better. ;p
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dadkins
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Then I suggest you take a look at the original... or get a better monitor! LOL!
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BloodRoses
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I meant the fonts looked better than the original. I have a professionally calibrated S-IPS panel, my display is fine.
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dadkins
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Glasses then?
Looks fine here, what's on the screen and the image I posted.

Whatever, I have to go watch AvP now!
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Playback of some BD movies hits 40mbps.
Any compression is going to trash picture quality and or cause artifacting.

Uhm, no thanks!
You haven't seen much x264 compression yet then, I assume.
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said by dadkins See Profile :

Playback of some BD movies hits 40mbps.
Any compression is going to trash picture quality and or cause artifacting.
Here's a thought... if you read that thread where they cracked BluRay, there's something interesting there. A person asks "what compression is used" about a few titles, others answer "MPEG-2". Others note that MPEG-4 is also an option for BluRay, but there doesn't seem to be any actual discs out there using MPEG-4.

Hmmm. MPEG-2 is a little long in the tooth, but it does mean that you *need* more space to rip to, a more expensive blank to burn to, and of course, more bandwidth to upload/download any rips if you're not recompressing it.

Question: Are they choosing MPEG-2 on purpose to make it harder for the pirates and/or fair-use people to deal with their content?
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