  Curado Kev Premium join:2003-12-17 Portage, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| Here we go again-ATT Routers causing HIGH MI Pings
Any Charter admin - Can you look into this...
Same as my post awhile back..
»ATT Routers slow and SW Michigan - What can we do ??
Pings are 10ms and then it hits 4 - ATT routers on route to Chicago CS server from Kalamazoo - 100-115 ping on all ATT routers. It will cool down around 10pm I'm sure. Please look into it...
I'll keep monitoring it, no decent Counter Strike tonight 
Ckev |
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  Anon_Admin
@charter.com | Hey Kev. Just letting you know I see your post and will check into it. Feel free to throw a few trace routes up. Thanks |
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  Happi
@charter.com | Could this be AT&T's response to "Net-Neutrality"??? |
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  Curado Kev Premium join:2003-12-17 Portage, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to Curado Kev I'll check again tonight and will if it continues.
It may a "blip" because since my post last August, I've had this happen at least 3 times were it acts this way for 3-4 days then goes away.
Thanks Ckev |
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  cork1958 Cork
join:2000-02-26 Fruitport, MI | reply to Curado Kev Not noticing anything over here this morning, so far. |
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 Zappa2000
join:2001-12-16 Kalamazoo, MI
1 edit | I am using a different ISP (AT&T), but doing a tracert to the same IP as last time gets the below. (Not that this means anything for Charter people, but this is more or less a FYI) Sorry to miss the lag 
4 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms dist1-vlan50.klmzmi.ameritech.net [67.36.55.226] 5 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms bb1-g1-0.klmzmi.ameritech.net [67.36.55.99] 6 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms bb1-p6-1.emhril.ameritech.net [151.164.188.148] 7 25 ms 24 ms 24 ms bb2-p13-1.emhril.ameritech.net [151.164.191.114] 8 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms 151.164.94.41 9 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms gar8-p330.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.79.85] 10 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms tbr2030801.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.99.66] 11 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms tbr2-cl7.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.46] 12 35 ms 35 ms 35 ms tbr1-cl24.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.9.141] 13 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms gbr1-p10.bgtmo.ip.att.net [12.122.4.69] 14 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms 12.122.248.250 15 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms 192.168.254.34 16 35 ms 20 ms 20 ms dailynews.worldnet.att.net [204.127.166.135] |
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 budone
join:2002-09-07 Traverse City, MI | What Zappa posted is pretty much what I am seeing through Charter.
I am in the low 30ms running through all ATT hops. |
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  Curado Kev Premium join:2003-12-17 Portage, MI | reply to Curado Kev Thanks guys..Ususally starts aroud 7-8 pm util 10-11pm.
Keep you posted,
Kev |
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  Curado Kev Premium join:2003-12-17 Portage, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to Curado Kev ATT routers all spiking now...
Plots attached...
Thanks to any admins..
Ckev |
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  fine_in _MI
@charter.com
| said by Curado Kev :ATT routers all spiking now... Plots attached... Thanks to any admins.. Ckev um ...60ms is hardly spiking  |
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  Curado Kev Premium join:2003-12-17 Portage, MI | reply to Curado Kev You must not be a gamer - Nuff said..
Still happening right now..
Ckev |
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  fine_in_MI
@charter.com | reply to Curado Kev Gimme a 60ms ping and I'll frag til theres nothing left to frag  |
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  RAMMIE Premium join:2000-10-23
| Loving my latency. -- HUH? |
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  borked Cheese With That Whine? Premium join:2003-08-10 Kalamazoo, MI | reply to Curado Kev »Will You Pay $15 More A Month For A Lower Ping? |
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 keybrdmssiah
join:2007-01-29 MI 2 edits | reply to Curado Kev CKev, I'm having the same problem. I can't play on any servers and get decent ping during this time(Everywhere is 120+). |
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  Happi
@charter.com
| reply to Curado Kev said by keybrdmssiah :CKev, I'm having the same problem. I can't play on any servers and get decent ping during this time(Everywhere is 120+). Charter is lucky I can't get DSL or I would have ditched this crap isp a long time ago .... Gee -- going to DSL wouldn't happen to benefit AT&T now would it? -- I mean they don't have an interest in screwing up Charter's pings now do they? That whole net-neutrality thing never amounted to anything right?  (OK I'm cynical and I don't trust the telco's -- sorry) |
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 keybrdmssiah
join:2007-01-29 MI
1 edit | It's actually not just ATT, it is 8pm and look at this trace route to a NuclearFallout.net Chicago Server (they use level3.net). Here you can see a large ping increase before even leaving charters network.
Tracing route to mutiny.nuclearfallout.net [216.52.148.191] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 8 ms 7 ms 16 ms 10.67.176.1 3 9 ms 10 ms 8 ms 172.19.69.169 4 43 ms 48 ms 44 ms 172.19.69.158 5 110 ms 106 ms 102 ms 172.19.47.142 6 119 ms 129 ms 119 ms dtrtmi1wce2-gige3-1.wcg.net [65.77.89.129] 7 117 ms 114 ms 125 ms brvwil1wcx3-pos14-1.wcg.net [64.200.210.93] 8 113 ms 116 ms 107 ms 64.200.249.190 9 123 ms 129 ms 125 ms te-4-3.car2.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.110.33] 10 140 ms 149 ms 135 ms ae-21-54.car1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.98]
11 126 ms 129 ms 130 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.208.138.134] 12 125 ms 126 ms 136 ms border10.ge2-0-bbnet1.chi.pnap.net [216.52.128.1 4] 13 116 ms 125 ms 128 ms c-216-52-148-191.internap-chicago.nuclearfallout .net [216.52.148.191]
Trace complete.
Here is a different traceroute to a different chicago server provider, velocity.
Tracing route to unknown.scnet.net [216.246.49.21] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 8 ms 16 ms 7 ms 10.67.176.1 3 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 172.19.69.169 4 42 ms 53 ms 48 ms 172.19.69.158 5 50 ms 47 ms 50 ms 24-247-236-145.static.aldl.mi.charter.com [24.24 7.236.145] 6 55 ms 59 ms 62 ms 24-247-236-109.static.aldl.mi.charter.com [24.24 7.236.109] 7 57 ms 58 ms 61 ms 24-247-63-158.static.aldl.mi.charter.com [24.247 .63.158] 8 69 ms 62 ms 64 ms 12.118.112.21 9 92 ms 90 ms 90 ms tbr2-p012401.dtrmi.ip.att.net [12.123.139.142] 10 97 ms 97 ms 100 ms tbr2-cl18.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.10.134] 11 104 ms 113 ms 98 ms ggr2-p3120.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.123.6.69] 12 90 ms 89 ms 99 ms att-gw.chicago.savvis.net [192.205.32.226] 13 94 ms 96 ms 90 ms ber2-pos-1-0-0.Chicago.savvis.net [208.175.10.98 ] 14 81 ms 87 ms 80 ms ber2-tenge-3-1.chicagoequinix.savvis.net [204.70 .196.26] 15 93 ms 90 ms 106 ms 208.173.176.218 16 96 ms 92 ms 89 ms so2-1-0.j1.ord.scnet.net [205.234.158.81] 17 92 ms 90 ms 94 ms ge0-1-1000M.ar1.ChicagoEquinix.velocity-servers. net [66.225.194.1] 18 104 ms 104 ms 105 ms unknown.scnet.net [216.246.49.21]
Trace complete.
Can a charter tech please help . It has been like this for 2 weeks now and it has been bad before but not like this. Kind of hard to play CAL-Invite CoD2 when you have 200 ms ping during match time, zzzzz. |
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 useless
join:2006-07-16
| reply to Happi you are wrong. Getting tired of this anon posting stuff too.
There is a bunch of competition at that level, compared to locally. For example, Charter in St Louis uses 2 companies, possibly a third. (Thought we went to only 2 recently though)
You obviously do not understand what net neutrality is about. It is about ATT charging google/yahoo/amazon/whoever more money, not Charter and ATT load balancing and BGP issues.
Please stop dropping into every thread with the same uninformed drivel about NN. I assume you are posting anon bc you would get banned otherwise. |
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  Curado Kev Premium join:2003-12-17 Portage, MI
·Charter Pipeline
| reply to Curado Kev Happi you maybe right?
Fine-in-Mich - I don't normally "whine" but as you know it does make a difference. I'll admit in August and Ocotber it was spiking around 100ms-130ms, so it was worse then.
I will tell you this when I had problems 2 years ago, I worked with net admins for 5 weeks(when they were located in Michigan) and my CS problems pinned a problem that was affecting the whole city for a month. However, us CS players noticed it. So fraggers aren't all bad - ROFL
We'll see what happens..Lower right now..
Ckev |
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  Anon_Admin
@charter.com | reply to Curado Kev Kev, you should see an improvement. Happi, you are a tool  |
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