Jon
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join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL | Who is gonna pay....
for the storage? |
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Asmodeus1
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA
| said by Jon  :for the storage? we are... what isp in there right mind would absorb the cost of building several massive data center/vaults to house and store this data to DoD/DoJ specs on the hopes that the government will have enough time to trudge through every bit of data looking for NAMBLA/Child porn rings/individuals...? it's ridiculous to ask isp's to capture, store, and house exabytes to zetabytes of information for the sake of the hope that you will nail these people and pray they are still there... this is why government shouldn't be conducting certain types activities... they just aren't good at it and it penalizes all of us... |
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jhboricua
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join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN
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| said by Asmodeus1 :we are... what isp in there right mind would absorb the cost of building several massive data center/vaults to house and store this data to DoD/DoJ specs on the hopes that the government will have enough time to trudge through every bit of data looking for NAMBLA/Child porn rings/individuals...? it's ridiculous to ask isp's to capture, store, and house exabytes to zetabytes of information for the sake of the hope that you will nail these people and pray they are still there... this is why government shouldn't be conducting certain types activities... they just aren't good at it and it penalizes all of us... You mean you bought the line that the purpose of this is to combat child porn? 
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Asmodeus1
join:2004-05-26
Spring Valley, CA
| it doesn't matter what the excuse is whether it's combating terror, illegal drugs, child porn, the slave trade, prostitution, snuff films, online rape, name your poison... the fact that the government wants private industry to capture and hold this data for years at a stretch is unreasonable and the cost of doing that will get passed down to you and me and they won't do anything with it because on average if they ever get to actually looking at this kind of data it will be to late considering things like statutes of limitations might come into effect and it will have been for nothing other than me having to grab my wallet all the time to get online...
it's not even necessary at this point either... build multiple echelon/carnivore systems that look for data traffic with respect to the aforementioned problems and capture that data as necessary and have it flag and alert an operator that can verify the data and notify the appropriate agency for action... |
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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA
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said by Asmodeus1 :said by Jon :for the storage? we are... what isp in there right mind would absorb the cost of building several massive data center/vaults to house and store this data to DoD/DoJ specs on the hopes that the government will have enough time to trudge through every bit of data looking for NAMBLA/Child porn rings/individuals...? it's ridiculous to ask isp's to capture, store, and house exabytes to zetabytes of information for the sake of the hope that you will nail these people and pray they are still there... this is why government shouldn't be conducting certain types activities... they just aren't good at it and it penalizes all of us... After they start building massive data center/vaults to house and store this data to DoD/DoJ specs. Everyone should switch back to cheapest dial up one can get. That should throw a big enough wrench into the works to mess it up.
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ross
join:2000-08-16
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said by Asmodeus1 :it doesn't matter what the excuse is whether it's combating terror, illegal drugs, child porn, the slave trade, prostitution, snuff films, online rape, name your poison... the fact that the government wants private industry to capture and hold this data for years at a stretch is unreasonable and the cost of doing that will get passed down to you and me and they won't do anything with it because on average if they ever get to actually looking at this kind of data it will be to late considering things like statutes of limitations might come into effect and it will have been for nothing other than me having to grab my wallet all the time to get online... it's not even necessary at this point either... build multiple echelon/carnivore systems that look for data traffic with respect to the aforementioned problems and capture that data as necessary and have it flag and alert an operator that can verify the data and notify the appropriate agency for action... Gee, that sounds like a solution; eliminate civil liberties altogether, and just spy on everyone, all the time... |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by guitarzan :said by Asmodeus1 :said by Jon :for the storage? we are... what isp in there right mind would absorb the cost of building several massive data center/vaults to house and store this data to DoD/DoJ specs on the hopes that the government will have enough time to trudge through every bit of data looking for NAMBLA/Child porn rings/individuals...? it's ridiculous to ask isp's to capture, store, and house exabytes to zetabytes of information for the sake of the hope that you will nail these people and pray they are still there... this is why government shouldn't be conducting certain types activities... they just aren't good at it and it penalizes all of us... After they start building massive data center/vaults to house and store this data to DoD/DoJ specs. Everyone should switch back to cheapest dial up one can get. That should throw a big enough wrench into the works to mess it up. Now everyone will get internet by the gigabyte, no more unlimited, so basically, for every gigabyte u transmit, you pay for space on a HD to record what you did. |
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