Rob
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Kendall, FL | Question of Authority..
Should GoDaddy have the power to yank domain names offline? IMO it should be the sole discretion of ICANN. |
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA
| If it means the security of hundreds/thousands/millions of account names/password, etc...then yes, they have a right IMO.
If a big site like Google or Amazon all of a sudden posted a ton of credit card info or any kind of personal info, I'd rather have it yanked immediately in terms of taking site down temporarily until it was removed. Protecting people's security is much more important then a website losing some business.
If a site was up for days with people's personal info, alot would be ticked that the site or another site like godaddy for example didn't pull it to stop the breach of security. |
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Rob
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| said by Jonbo298  :If it means the security of hundreds/thousands/millions of account names/password, etc...then yes, they have a right IMO. If a big site like Google or Amazon all of a sudden posted a ton of credit card info or any kind of personal info, I'd rather have it yanked immediately in terms of taking site down temporarily until it was removed. Protecting people's security is much more important then a website losing some business. If a site was up for days with people's personal info, alot would be ticked that the site or another site like godaddy for example didn't pull it to stop the breach of security. This situation makes me think of the Spamhaus / e360insight case were the Judge awarded e360insight 11.7 Million dollars for Spamhaus's failure to appear in a U.S. Court (they aren't based in the U.S.). What if other "e360insight" come around and manage to get registrars to start yanking domain names.. it should be up to ICANN.
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA | Yes but how long would it take for ICANN to temporarily yank it. I'd imagine a little longer because of having to get a 3rd comapny involved. I could be wrong but just wary when things involve waiting on another company to take action. |
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GOLFnSUN
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said by Jonbo298 :If it means the security of hundreds/thousands/millions of account names/password, etc...then yes, they have a right IMO. If a big site like Google or Amazon all of a sudden posted a ton of credit card info or any kind of personal info, I'd rather have it yanked immediately in terms of taking site down temporarily until it was removed. Protecting people's security is much more important then a website losing some business. If a site was up for days with people's personal info, alot would be ticked that the site or another site like godaddy for example didn't pull it to stop the breach of security. I agree. This site's owner, like some others, defends the posting of illegally obtained userids & passwords as a necessary aid in improving security. They sound just like the scum hackers that frequent their sites.
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PhoenixDown
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The problem is that these companies are not properly securing the information in the first place... the info has already been compromised and this is more a damage control PR ploy than anything.
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Rob
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said by Jonbo298 :Yes but how long would it take for ICANN to temporarily yank it. I'd imagine a little longer because of having to get a 3rd comapny involved. I could be wrong but just wary when things involve waiting on another company to take action. Who is the 3rd company involved? Myspace should have done directly to ICANN, presented their case, and ICANN would have yanked it. GoDaddy is under the regulation of ICANN.
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pipdipchip
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said by Jonbo298 :If it means the security of hundreds/thousands/millions of account names/password, etc...then yes, they have a right IMO. We are talking about MySpace passwords. Not bank account passwords or something. Not really a huge deal.
In a perfect should GoDaddy have the right? Maybe. But the fact of the matter is, the domain owner has a right to explain his side of the story. Is posting MySpace passwords illegal? It would be a hard case. If he didn't break the law, what did they do wrong to have their domain taken?
In my opinion, taking a domain (which is property), should be the last last possible option and should be court ordered.
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
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| yes and think of the intelligence of the people that USE myspace
since it uses your e-mail as your logon i bet thay use the same pass for every thing its not a far leap to try it
some myspace logons and passes got out on 4chans /b/(random) board a bit back and some people on there did some realy not nice stuff like getting in to these peoples e-mail accounts then sending out suicide notes to every one in there address books |
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nwrickert
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Go Daddy clearly made a mistake in this case.
It would be an even worse mistake to not allow registrars to yank domains. Such a restriction would be of great benefit to phishers and scammers. We need phishing and scamming domains to be yanked as soon as possible. |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
00000 | reply to GOLFnSUN
Please cite the law which was violated. |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
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Godaddy has pulled similar schenanigans in the past, by killing the domain hosting the NAMESERVER a spammers domain was pointed at. Godaddy have serious ethical issues to address here, and should not be meddling in the domain name system if they are unwilling to do so in a fair and proper manner. Their current MO is simply yanking whatever they dont like for whatever reason and sending a groundless bill to the owners holding their domains hostage until they pay up so they will be permitted to transfer their domains elsewhere. This is not behavior i tolerate from a registrar, and suggest any godaddy customers to research what the company has been up to. They may be cheap, but they certainly arent to be trusted. |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
00000 | reply to elios
SHHH! The first rule of /b/ is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT /b/! |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
00000 | reply to nwrickert
The current system of yanking is obviously ineffective as there is no drop in spammers or scammers. Before you praise it, consider how successful it really is. |
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nwrickert
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| The current system of yanking is obviously ineffective as there is no drop in spammers or scammers. Before you praise it, consider how successful it really is. That's like saying that having a fire department is ineffective, since there is no drop in fires.
The proper question is whether the number of victims is reduced. |
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sporkme
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said by elios :some myspace logons and passes got out on 4chans /b/(random) board a bit back and some people on there did some realy not nice stuff like getting in to these peoples e-mail accounts then sending out suicide notes to every one in there address books That's so mean. Imagine the disappointment felt by the rest of the world when they discovered that MySpace users were not committing mass suicide. |
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riturno
join:2004-04-20
Dallas, TX
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Security Theater
Perhaps many of the commenters here should read the linked articles. The site that was taken down was a mailing list archive.
The owner of the site would have removed the information, but was not really given any notice before the take down.
Worse is that the list had been available on the web for over nine days before MySpace went after this one archive of the list. The list can still be found with Google.
Taking down this one copy of the list did nothing to help security for MySpace users or even make a dent in availability of the information. |
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jsouth
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Wichita, KS | reply to deepblackmag
Re: Question of Authority..
Ever heard of identity theft? How about facilitating identity theft?
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MASantangelo
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Pittstown, NJ
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If you're using your bank password as your myspace account password then you probably deserve to get your funds stolen. It's the only way some people will learn.
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
00000 | reply to jsouth
A username and password are not identity theft. try harder next time. |
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