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Finger Pointing

AT&T picked Microsoft to be their provider for an IPTV solution. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with AT&T not Microsoft to ensure that the solution fits their (AT&T's) IPTV needs.

Sounds like some poor analysis was done at AT&T and they are pointing their fingers at Mr. Softee.

Analogy:
I've got a fire I need to put out. I need a hose to move the water. I pick a 1/2 inch hose. The fire rages out of control. Who is responsible?
1. Me (AT&T) for picking too small of a hose?
2. The maker of the hose (Microsoft) because it doesn't supply enough water?

I think you'll put the blame with #1 because I picked a bad solution to the problem.

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The size of the hose does not matter if the pump does not work.

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said by anonone :

The size of the hose does not matter if the pump does not work.
Classic!
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But Microsoft wasn't the maker of the pump...

RayW
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said by geek:

AT&T picked Microsoft to be their provider for an IPTV solution. Ultimately, the responsibility lies with AT&T not Microsoft to ensure that the solution fits their (AT&T's) IPTV needs.

Sounds like some poor analysis was done at AT&T and they are pointing their fingers at Mr. Softee.
Mind posting links to the specs from AT&T that lead you to make that statement? Most of the articles that point fingers seem to point toward microsoft not being able to provide, which makes sense since historically microsoft requires many iterations (prime example, the antitrust case where m had to go through many iterations to to get IE an integral and non-removable part of windows) to get working code out.

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said by MASantangelo:

But Microsoft wasn't the maker of the pump...
For his analogy to work, ATT picked the size of the pipe and chose MS to build the pump. The pipe is in place, however the pump has problems functioning at times. MS is responsible for the STB code and a large portion of backend IPTV code as well.

Even verizon had problems with the MS pump and they were using a very large pipe.

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I would have a classical reply to that one simply because you set yourself up for it, but I won't say it here. :-D

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It's not the size of the hose but how you use it.

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said by anonone :
said by MASantangelo:

But Microsoft wasn't the maker of the pump...
For his analogy to work, ATT picked the size of the pipe and chose MS to build the pump. The pipe is in place, however the pump has problems functioning at times. MS is responsible for the STB code and a large portion of backend IPTV code as well.

Even verizon had problems with the MS pump and they were using a very large pipe.
I am no AT&T or Microsoft booster.. but even THIS needs to be deflated... Yes AT&T chose the pipe... but they ALSO chose the pump... is it MicroSoft's problem that the pump is inadequate? No - AT&T chose the wrong one. If Microsoft was the only choice there might be an issue.. but as they aren't.....

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Microsoft sold ATT something that they haven't been able to deliver (and not just to ATT either).

Obviously ATT didn't do their due diligence, since there are viable IPTV solutions deployed around the world. However that doesn't mean Microsoft didn't screw the pooch on this one. Microsoft has tried to build everything on their own instead of integrating with existing 'best of breed' components and deliver something on schedule that actually works.

After getting burned by SA (now owned by Cisco) and GI (now owned by Moto) with their closed and vertically integrated systems, at least most of the cablecos learned to not only bring in two vendors and have them compete for a larger share of the business, but also to require a certain level of interoperability between key components.

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Especially if one is Microsoft.
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Yes VZ realized probs with the code and were smart enough to take care of it themselves..... At least VZ is doing the IPTV right (FTTH,writing code etc). ATT will continue to struggle to bring TV to the masses with bandwidth limitations and software issues related to the limited bandwidth.
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Yes, this is finger pointing. Microsoft is not the only provider in IPTV platform solutions, but AT&T put all their rotten eggs in the one basket. You would think that they would have conducted redundant implementations with the same market and utilized at least one city as a test bed to see which solution provider delivered better.