Re: Question of Authority.. in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17715380 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:09:44 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:09:44 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718084 ROCINANTE 2112 : It's the law; go look it up. Anyone who has majored in business has taken at least two law classes and would know this.
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said by ROCINANTE 2112 See Profile :

Invasion of privacy tort:

You cannot knowingly publish private data of private individuals, especially when a reasonable person expects the data to remain secure. This overrides the First Amendment. Case closed.
Bullshit, plain and simple.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17716670 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:27:58 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715876 Network Guy : Fuck that. That's like saying that GoDaddy needs reasonable intent to then ask ICANN if it's okay to kick them offline.

If you're an asshole enough to post something like that, you should be fine with getting the rug pulled from under your feet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715876 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:02:20 EDT Re: Security Theater http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715265 RadioDoc :
said by riturno See Profile :

The list can still be found with Google.
Indeed. And who here will petition to have 'google.com' revoked because of it?

Anyone?

GoDaddy is out of control.
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There is no excuse whatsoever, other than the poor excuse of ignorance and denial, to use random password generator programs such as RoboForm (The one I use) to generate random passwords on different websites that have ANY of your personal information.

You can not be too careful when securing private information on the internet. Ignorance and denial will make you a target.
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-Dane]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715330 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:23:48 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715310 ROCINANTE 2112 : Invasion of privacy tort:

You cannot knowingly publish private data of private individuals, especially when a reasonable person expects the data to remain secure. This overrides the First Amendment. Case closed.
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The owner of the site would have removed the information, but was not really given any notice before the take down.

Worse is that the list had been available on the web for over nine days before MySpace went after this one archive of the list. The list can still be found with Google.

Taking down this one copy of the list did nothing to help security for MySpace users or even make a dent in availability of the information. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714957 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:19:21 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714944 sporkme :
said by elios See Profile :

some myspace logons and passes got out on 4chans /b/(random) board a bit back and some people on there did some realy not nice stuff like getting in to these peoples e-mail accounts then sending out suicide notes to every one in there address books
That's so mean. Imagine the disappointment felt by the rest of the world when they discovered that MySpace users were not committing mass suicide.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714944 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:15:50 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714794 nwrickert :
The current system of yanking is obviously ineffective as there is no drop in spammers or scammers. Before you praise it, consider how successful it really is.
That's like saying that having a fire department is ineffective, since there is no drop in fires.

The proper question is whether the number of victims is reduced.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714794 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:49:33 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714698 deepblackmag : The current system of yanking is obviously ineffective as there is no drop in spammers or scammers. Before you praise it, consider how successful it really is.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714698 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:32:31 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714686 deepblackmag : SHHH! The first rule of /b/ is YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT /b/!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714686 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:31:04 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714671 deepblackmag : Godaddy has pulled similar schenanigans in the past, by killing the domain hosting the NAMESERVER a spammers domain was pointed at. Godaddy have serious ethical issues to address here, and should not be meddling in the domain name system if they are unwilling to do so in a fair and proper manner. Their current MO is simply yanking whatever they dont like for whatever reason and sending a groundless bill to the owners holding their domains hostage until they pay up so they will be permitted to transfer their domains elsewhere. This is not behavior i tolerate from a registrar, and suggest any godaddy customers to research what the company has been up to. They may be cheap, but they certainly arent to be trusted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714671 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:29:12 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714643 deepblackmag : Please cite the law which was violated.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714643 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:25:39 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714568 nwrickert : Go Daddy clearly made a mistake in this case.

It would be an even worse mistake to not allow registrars to yank domains. Such a restriction would be of great benefit to phishers and scammers. We need phishing and scamming domains to be yanked as soon as possible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714568 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:13:21 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714488 elios : yes and think of the intelligence of the people that USE myspace
since it uses your e-mail as your logon i bet thay use the same pass for every thing its not a far leap to try it

some myspace logons and passes got out on 4chans /b/(random) board a bit back and some people on there did some realy not nice stuff like getting in to these peoples e-mail accounts then sending out suicide notes to every one in there address books ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714488 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:59:21 EDT Re: Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17714438 pipdipchip :
said by Jonbo298 See Profile :

If it means the security of hundreds/thousands/millions of account names/password, etc...then yes, they have a right IMO.
We are talking about MySpace passwords. Not bank account passwords or something. Not really a huge deal.

In a perfect should GoDaddy have the right? Maybe. But the fact of the matter is, the domain owner has a right to explain his side of the story. Is posting MySpace passwords illegal? It would be a hard case. If he didn't break the law, what did they do wrong to have their domain taken?

In my opinion, taking a domain (which is property), should be the last last possible option and should be court ordered.
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said by Jonbo298 See Profile :

Yes but how long would it take for ICANN to temporarily yank it. I'd imagine a little longer because of having to get a 3rd comapny involved. I could be wrong but just wary when things involve waiting on another company to take action.
Who is the 3rd company involved? Myspace should have done directly to ICANN, presented their case, and ICANN would have yanked it. GoDaddy is under the regulation of ICANN.
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said by Jonbo298 See Profile :

If it means the security of hundreds/thousands/millions of account names/password, etc...then yes, they have a right IMO.

If a big site like Google or Amazon all of a sudden posted a ton of credit card info or any kind of personal info, I'd rather have it yanked immediately in terms of taking site down temporarily until it was removed. Protecting people's security is much more important then a website losing some business.

If a site was up for days with people's personal info, alot would be ticked that the site or another site like godaddy for example didn't pull it to stop the breach of security.
I agree. This site's owner, like some others, defends the posting of illegally obtained userids & passwords as a necessary aid in improving security. They sound just like the scum hackers that frequent their sites.
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said by Jonbo298 See Profile :

If it means the security of hundreds/thousands/millions of account names/password, etc...then yes, they have a right IMO.

If a big site like Google or Amazon all of a sudden posted a ton of credit card info or any kind of personal info, I'd rather have it yanked immediately in terms of taking site down temporarily until it was removed. Protecting people's security is much more important then a website losing some business.

If a site was up for days with people's personal info, alot would be ticked that the site or another site like godaddy for example didn't pull it to stop the breach of security.
This situation makes me think of the Spamhaus / e360insight case were the Judge awarded e360insight 11.7 Million dollars for Spamhaus's failure to appear in a U.S. Court (they aren't based in the U.S.). What if other "e360insight" come around and manage to get registrars to start yanking domain names.. it should be up to ICANN.
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If a big site like Google or Amazon all of a sudden posted a ton of credit card info or any kind of personal info, I'd rather have it yanked immediately in terms of taking site down temporarily until it was removed. Protecting people's security is much more important then a website losing some business.

If a site was up for days with people's personal info, alot would be ticked that the site or another site like godaddy for example didn't pull it to stop the breach of security.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17713864 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:03:28 EDT Question of Authority.. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17713817 Rob : Should GoDaddy have the power to yank domain names offline? IMO it should be the sole discretion of ICANN. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17713817 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:54:39 EDT