Re: Maybe this is what it takes... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17717530 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:23:23 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:23:23 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17719558 kdhamann : Now who's behind the times... :) It's E-Comstation with Firefox for OS/2 users.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17719558 Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:50:22 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718471 digiblur : 4:3 on a 16:9 display causes black bars on the sides since it doesn't fill the entire screen. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718471 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:33:50 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718362 omniscient : I'm still curious about what black bars, unless you mean widescreen. I loathe widescreen, the proportions make everything seem askew. Honestly, I'm not insulting the tech, and if you enjoy it good, its meant to be enjoyed and treated as something purely for fun. The reason I got annoyed was the two previous posters and their attitude. Your previous post lead me to believe you were of the same sort, if you are not then I apologize if my post seemed to be condescending. I don't watch TV except maybe Discovery or Animal Planet on occasion, so I have no attachments to it. Some people treat it like its a large factor in their lives and that seems pretty sad. If you just enjoy it and treat it to be that which it is, great, if you act like the quality of your TV/Video devices is some measuring stick of your status, then honestly..get a life.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718362 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:11:30 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718304 digiblur :
said by omniscient See Profile :

And what does the less washed out/non fuzzy sans black bars on the side(wtf?) provide you?
No black bars here... pure 1080i/720p content here. Commercial free too. We don't watch HD. After having the HDTV for 6 months I popped in a DVD in the upconverting DVD player and my wife and I looked at each other saying "What's wrong with the picture?" "Ohhh...it's only 480p"

I couldn't go back. You can't see the show on SD.
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said by voyager6868 See Profile :

Let me guess... You wrote that post using your 14" VGA monitor running Windows 3.0?
Windows 3.0?? That's garbage. OS/2 to the max w/ Netscape!
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Edit: Voyager I'm going to assume that was aimed at me. First off, I use a 17" LCD screen, nothing fancy by any means. I needed an LCD since normal CRT's hurt my eyes after staring at them for awhile. 17" because I need the space as a programmer and in general 15" screens are cramped. Its obvious I don't run Win3.0 since it would be nearly useless. See my computer is a necessity for work and school. A TV is not. The whole HDTV issue is about leisure, not productivity. I cannot do the things I need to on Win3.0, thus your statement does not pertain to the issue. Furthermore the whole issue is not about HDTV, but people who insult others or insinuate they are poor if they do not own one. Those who act like that are the exact same as those idiotic sports fans who cry when their favorite teams lose. Fanatical...Its one thing to appreciate the tech for what it is, but another to assume its a better lifestyle.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718225 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:46:51 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718203 voyager6868 : Let me guess... You wrote that post using your 14" VGA monitor running Windows 3.0?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17718203 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:43:01 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17717530 digiblur : What's SD?

Ohhh... that's that stuff that looks washed out and fuzzy with black bars on the side that I used to watch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17717530 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:46:30 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17717233 omniscient :
said by inteller See Profile :

geez, you and everyone you know must live in the poor house. you can honestly say you dont know ANYONE who has an HDTV. wow. just wow.
said by antwanp See Profile :

Or, you just may be content with your 15 year old 19" console tv...
Not everyone cares enough to upgrade when they don't see a need. There is nothing worth watching, and my opinion is shared by more people than you think. Can I afford an HDTV? Yes pretty easily, since as you said: the prices are "dropping daily". Would I spend any money on one? No, my normal def TV works perfectly. Your insinuation that someone must be poor because they don't own a non-necessity is moronic at best. I honestly disdain those that try and play "holier-than-thou" because they dive into the newest fads, tech or otherwise early, and thumb their nose at those who do not follow. People have different priorities, and it so happens that television is not one of them for everyone. While HDTV may not be a fad any-longer, it is definitely not the standard. More people own SDTV's than HDTV's, don't even try and argue that point, and most channels are SD still. You both come off as one of those stereotypical snobby valley girls on some lame tv show that laughs at the girls who don't follow the latest crazes. Its a weak analogy but it was the first thing that came to mind when I read the posts made by the two of you. Seeing how you both put so much importance on TV, I'm sure you both know the type of character I mean...maybe you both idolize her, who knows, but I wouldn't doubt it. The quality of the image means nothing when the content isn't worth watching, until that changes, I will not buy an HDTV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17717233 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:51:49 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17716655 jimbo2150 :
said by inteller See Profile :

geez, you and everyone you know must live in the poor house. you can honestly say you dont know ANYONE who has an HDTV. wow. just wow.
No, I don't live in the poor house.. but seriously... what if I did? You need to be a little more sensitive the the variety of people in the world.

Anyway, and also in reponse to antwamp, I have seen HD. I just find that the increase in picture quality is not really necessary. True, it may become a standard in the future, but for me and those that I know it is not something we would like to run out and buy. Considering I know so many who have very little knowlege of anything technical, I could make a pretty good assumption that a majority of the U.S. don't currently see HD as something major yet.

As for the 'experience', I will leave that to the theaters to provide.

said by antwanp See Profile :

Get with the times people!
I am a computer science major and have been thinking this for quite a while, but not anymore. I realize that so many are not as interested in the 'latest and greatest' untill it transparently integrates itself years down the road. It may be hard to accept, but thats what happens. Not everyone is a CS major or seriously interested in technology. Period.
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said by inteller See Profile :

geez, you and everyone you know must live in the poor house. you can honestly say you dont know ANYONE who has an HDTV. wow. just wow.
I agree. HDTV is the new standard. The only people that are saying otherwise are people that have never truly experienced HD. It's not a fad that's disappearing anytime soon. The prices of HDTV's are dropping daily. You don't believe me, check out your local best buy or circuit city. Or, you just may be content with your 15 year old 19" console tv...

Get with the times people!

-Antwan L.
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said by Nightwchtr See Profile :

Probably but dont think most people will waste there time on downloading HD movies if the movie industry makes the HDDVD's priced within range. For most it will be to much of a hassle. Atleast that is my .02 on it. But you never know with this industry, they might make a movie a $100.00 so it might be worth trying to download the movies. Me personally wont buy anything until I have a tv to watch it on anyhow, lol.
Your missing the point (and so is the article). Eventually release groups will make HD rips instead of DVD rips. Also, eventually I will be renting and copying HD movies.. Eventually I will be downloading them when the bandwidth is available..

Baby steps my friend..
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But they have AACS so they don't wind up in the same situation that CD's wound up in: when CD's were first released, P2P wasn't possible nor even envisioned, so no one worried about. Now it's too late to go back and change things.

With AACS, They can always "fix" this particular issue with these specific keys, before network bandwidths that can quickly transfer 20GB files are developed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715348 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:26:54 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715273 53059959 : its not about the bandwidth, its about the space. 20+ gb hd movies makes a 500gb drive look pretty small.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715273 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:12:55 EDT Re: Maybe this is what it takes... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17715184 jimbo2150 : If anything, the AACS will want to try to hinder the U.S. getting faster speeds because of this.

Also: HD isn't as popular as you would think yet. It's not a necessity. I don't know anyone who even has an HD TV. It looks like at the moment it is just a luxury for people who have the money. Possibly the reason why cable/sat HD uptake is lacking at the moment.

Also: While those in certain areas (served by Muni-Fiber/Verizon FIOS) may see those speeds soon, those in ATT territory (making up a huge chunk of the U.S.) will only see 6mb/s even under UVerse as of now. Unless ATT allows for faster internet speed, cable deploys next-gen at a decent price, or Muni takes over in most areas it is unlikely the majority of the U.S. will see those kind of speeds soon.
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Ironic, no?
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