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[northeast] Manhattan Apartment Building Wired for FiOS

wow 35 floor building, that's going to have a lot of wiring. I wonder, is it one ONT for the whole building?

reply to jaymer
there is a VZ bigwig that lives there. 97 Street CO will be one of only CO in manhattan to get fios. internet by summer, video by year end.

reply to jaymer
What I find funny is that the building would allow them to install crown molding to make FIOS installation easy... If I was the owner of that building, I would demand Verizon pay me for putting that stuff up on the walls. That is just making the job easier for them and if they did a bad job, it detracts from the building's appearance.

-Tzale

reply to tiger102
verizon has contractors that install the steel conduits between the floors and the crown mouldings with channel runs behind them. Vz techs are supposed to place all the cables and mount all the fons box's.Usually one box every other floor.To get to the apt,the crown mouldings have to be popped off and an individual fiber run in the channel back to the fons box,then replace all the mouldings.I've seen where the techs usually run fiber to just outside the customers door (wheather they order it or not),so that the entire floor is ready to go.

Overall it looked pretty darn clean, I was impressed. Sure the crown molding could have been done a little better, but overall I wouldn't care if I could get FiOS (But I am sure some of the building's residents do!). But in terms of the wiring channels which were run (In the closet), the installation of the conduits, and the mounting of the junction box, it all looks top notch!

I am a networking major at RIT (hence why I spend my time in Rochester) and I thought it was very clean.

-Jamie

reply to jaymer
Tzale,

If you live in a condo or co-op building the last thing you are concerned with is how the crown molding in the hallways looks. If you are, I feel sorry for you. If there are no conduits to pull fiber through on a 35 story building, pardon VZ if they got permission from the board/owner to run the wires they did. I live in a condo building and the town has FIOS, if you think it's easy to get VZ to come in and wire a building, you got another thing coming. I like what VZ has done with this building in Manhattan and I am going to contact the engineer in Nassau county that sent two different plans to my building manager to see if the pictures above are one solution of the two given. It's been an uphill fight to get this stuff presented to the condo board for approval. Remember, VZ is getting approval of their plan to wire the building so it's no surprise to anyone that holes are drilled and crown molding is installed. The board of that building approved it and what you see in the pictures is the end result. Those of us in MDUs should only be so lucky.

Yeah, I think it looks good too. It could be a lot worse, I spent my entire weekend in NYC cleaning up rats nests of cabling for friends, so this install was night and day.

I would not have a problem one bit with the job they did, but I am sure some people would. A lot of people don't give a crud about the fact that its the "latest technology", they want their apartment buildings to look perfect.

I can't wait to go over there this summer and see it working :-D

-Jamie

reply to Tzale
#1,the mouldings look great and unless you could have every tenant home at the same time on every floor to have holes drilled through floors and ceilings to run all the cables to the bsmt this is the fastest way to get fios service setup. #2,this method is basically what cable tv did except they used small plastic tracks with snap on covers.The crown moulding now hides both utilities. #3,if the building owner doesn't want fios service in the building,then he can say NO,(although i think he might get some flack from tenants).#4,VZ can only do this work with permission of the building owner. I have a feeling that the building owner doesn't walk away "empty handed".

Well, RCN did MDU's in New York City as well. Mine has the same deal as this one right now except the lines were drilled thru the stairwells. The difference however is that my building Im in now is fiber to the basement, then coaxial and pots quad shielded RG6UQ to the apartments.

In this case it looks like its fiber end to end. Those FONS boxes are smaller than the boxes we have on each floor.

reply to jaymer
It would be nice if they could somehow use the existing coax to get it done.
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reply to jaymer
This looks just like a Cablevision MDU run, including the moulding. Nice pics.
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reply to jaymer
Please reduce the size of the photos.

reply to jaymer
I agree, the cable job is actually good. If you have never ran network (cat-5/6 or fiber), you would not realize how hard it can be in an apartment building. If you don't have a drop down ceiling or conduit, this is the only way to run the cables.

As for using the existing coaxial, how do you expect that to happen? The cable is used for cable TV in the apartments or is the property of the cable provider.
It seems that nowadays, everyone wants something better and takes one step forward, but complains and takes two steps back.

reply to jaymer
I agree, the cable job is actually good. If you have never ran network (cat-5/6 or fiber), you would not realize how hard it can be in an apartment building. If you don't have a drop down ceiling or ocnduit, this is the only way to run the cables.

As for using the existing coaxial, how do you expect that to happen? The cable is used for cable TV in the apartments or is the property of the cable provider.
It seems that nowadays, everyone wants something better and takes one step forward, but complains and takes two steps back.

reply to jaymer
How about some fire-stopping in those conduits to stop fire from spreading from floor to floor? I do believe that it is necessary to extend the steel conduit 18" into the space and THEN be fire-stopped. At the very least some rock wool should in stuffed in the pipes during the construction period.




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reply to jaymer
looks like a good install for whats basicly a retrofit to an old building to support fiber services. if i built any apartment or condo complex today id build with future services in mind and have conduits(with fiber friendly bends) to a small closet in each unit. this way future services could do a pull with ease
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reply to John Galt

said by John Galt:

How about some fire-stopping in those conduits to stop fire from spreading from floor to floor? I do believe that it is necessary to extend the steel conduit 18" into the space and THEN be fire-stopped. At the very least some rock wool should in stuffed in the pipes during the construction period.