Re: Pay for this? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17749902 en Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:33:26 EDT Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:33:26 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17755765 thender2 :
said by batterup See Profile :

said by Dodge See Profile :

And when your account gets capped or terminated for "excessive" uploading will they help you resolve the situation?
Get off Cablevision, they are crooks.
Agreed.

Cablevision is like the PSU that rates itself at 25c.

The PSU that is 700 watts at 25c, will go down to unstable 350 at 50c, which is a realistic temperature.

Cablevision's 10/1 or 15/2 or 20/5 or whatever silliness they try to run on their awful network gets dropped down when you actually use the connection they give you. They're not ready for the next generation of content.
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Time to rewrite the DMCA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17755765 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 05:25:08 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751481 wentlanc : Tempting offer! I'll have to pass though.

I've recently given up throwing money away.

;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751481 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:21:38 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751432 batterup :
said by wentlanc See Profile :

Even if you are paying less that you are now... Good justification.

Which telco are you invested in?

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I have some Verizon stock I bought at $60, I'll sell it to you for $50.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751432 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:14:10 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751351 wentlanc : Even if you are paying less that you are now... Good justification.

Which telco are you invested in?

puritan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751351 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:00:46 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751312 batterup :
said by wentlanc See Profile :

All the more reason to go Muni. break-even is good enough.

puritan
I don't want to pay higher taxes so kiddies can download porn.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751312 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:54:52 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751164 wentlanc :
said by batterup See Profile :

Pass laws that prevent network providers from making a sufficient return on investment and the investment will stop.
Define sufficient, and compare that to their earnings statements. All the more reason to go Muni. break-even is good enough.

puritan]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751164 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:32:36 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751111 batterup :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

They are trying to reduce their bandwidth costs at the expense of the ISP's bandwidth costs. ... Of course, net neutrality could alter that equation if it ever passes.
The builders of the network are risking billions of share holder dollars. There is no way they will permit leaches to suck them dry. Pass laws that prevent network providers from making a sufficient return on investment and the investment will stop.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751111 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:24:43 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17751044 TKJunkMail :
said by davisx See Profile :

Here's a question, if I have to actually pay for content from this website, why the heck would i want to be uploading anything?
They are trying to reduce their bandwidth costs at the expense of the ISP's bandwidth costs. I think they would lose in court claiming discrimination for blocking bittorent if the ISP blocks the whole protocol for all sites and not just specific ones. Of course, net neutrality could alter that equation if it ever passes. But personally I believe that an ISP can block a protocol and not a site and stay out of legal trouble.
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»www.peerimpact.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17750763 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:27:17 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17750446 Dodge : And verizon cannot provide DSL here due to digital-loop, so by your suggestion I should go to dial-up?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17750446 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:40:47 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17750433 batterup :
said by Dodge See Profile :

And when your account gets capped or terminated for "excessive" uploading will they help you resolve the situation?
Get off Cablevision, they are crooks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17750433 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:37:51 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17750022 anon : No, of course not. That is a trade off. A Good torrent client let you cap anything from maximum uploaded, to maximum rate for uploading.

And not everyone has a max data ul/dl cap. I don't have that much of a high speed internet, but I can upload all day long and they won't say boo.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17750022 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:29:40 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17749902 Dodge : And when your account gets capped or terminated for "excessive" uploading will they help you resolve the situation?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17749902 Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:09:52 EDT Re: Pay for this? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17749768 SSX4life : To reduce the cost of bandwidth they have to charge for the product!

They could also offer incentives such as upload X amount and receive a free copy of a movie or equiviliant. Reduced bandwidth costs (or little to none at all) means reduced prices on media

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