fiberguy
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Re: Unlimited...
Gee... and where have we all heard that before, 200 times... oh yea! YOU!
The people had the ability to set standards and prices for that system? HAH! Phone, my friend, has a HORRIBLE and INFAMOUS reputation for screwing the people.. FAR worse that what people think cable does... not to mention, cable isn't a utility like phone is.
This person doesn't "bitch" about phone... except celebrates the end of it's tight grip on this nation. If it weren't for cable, telephone would still be sticking it to the people.
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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said by BF69  :said by Loker :sometimes my bandwidth usage can get excessive (I think I was over 200 GB's one month) and I have yet to have any issues with Comcast.... Man you steal a lot of stuff. I sure do? guna call me a stealer too? Please stop ur everyone's a theif crap. No one cares what you think of them.
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| reply to axus
Re: Unlimited...
said by axus :Yeah, a better analogy would be the Department of Transportation limiting the number of miles you can drive in a month, because when people drive too much they have to build more roads and there's a lot of traffic. People put up with traffic, speed limits, and state taxes, but we're not going to accept road mileage limits. What ISPs should do is continue upgrading at the pace their revenue can afford, and let people be limited by the heavy traffic. The more miles one drives the more gas one uses and the more tax one pays. One pays for every mile. |
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Obliteration
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join:2005-09-18
Somewhere
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said by FiL :... sounds like whenever someones asked "why are you downloading so much" the automatic response is: updates/backups/college finals papers and excell spreads...lol which sounds funny, pirate! Not saying anythings wrong with that, but grow some ****'s why dont ya! Any moron knows that college papers and excel sheets won't ever get past 2GB in a month no matter how big of a load you have.
Hell, HD porn takes up a lot of space. You can do 20+ gigs on that be it legal. PLENTY of things out there to download.
You claiming others are pirates is beyond hilarious, can you prove it? I can find you many things you can download over the Internet and gets gigs a month. You don't know what that file is or isn't so just keep your mouth shut.
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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| said by Obliteration :said by FiL :... sounds like whenever someones asked "why are you downloading so much" the automatic response is: updates/backups/college finals papers and excell spreads...lol which sounds funny, pirate! Not saying anythings wrong with that, but grow some ****'s why dont ya! Any moron knows that college papers and excel sheets won't ever get past 2GB in a month no matter how big of a load you have. Hell, HD porn takes up a lot of space. You can do 20+ gigs on that be it legal. PLENTY of things out there to download. You claiming others are pirates is beyond hilarious, can you prove it? I can find you many things you can download over the Internet and gets gigs a month. You don't know what that file is or isn't so just keep your mouth shut. Hell i can hit 200 gigs a month just beta testing a few games. I had my upload to like 30 gigs before. Pretty funny when TWC called and alerted me to a masive increase in up stream useage. They were worried that i might have been turned in to a pirated software dump. What happened was was hosting a 1 gig beta client download for a game and 2 40 meg updates heh. That month 3 games I was beta testing. Had 1 gig or so client updates and each had over 400 megs of updates. I was testign on at the time 3 computers. Now one had 3 full client downloads over the corse of a month 1 had 1 and the other had 2.
Because of how serious a beta tester i am i tend to do alot of driver updates windows reinstalls and apply various service packs and other large updates and try to pin down the cause of a bug.
Like you said it is not hard to hit that sort of useage legally. Was my hosting of the 1 gig client against my tos not really all my toss said was no "public" "web" servers. My server was a web server yes but it was not serving any web content. It also was not a public server as the beta test was a closed non public beta/alpha. At that time there were less than 500 testers total who worked in 3 time periods essentially shifts. group 1 could only log in between 7 am and 4 pm secound shift started at 4 to 1 am last went from 1 am to 7 am. I only served to shift 1.
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Mordhem
Love it, Hate it.
join:2003-07-10
Baltimore, MD | reply to DaMaGeINC
Same here!  lol |
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js1
@swbell.net
| reply to Nick
Digital packets aren't the same as a physical commodity like soda. The problem is politicans and regulators now consider telcos as such, as traditional free market companies, when really internet access should be a utility. If it isn't unlimited, they shouldn't advertise it as such.
That would be like if I had an unlimited long-distance phone service, but then because I was using it too much (in the opinion of someone at the company), they decided to limit the areas I could call to. |
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MadMANN
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join:2005-08-19
·Comcast
| reply to dadkins
said by dadkins :Most(if not all) ISPs advertise - Unlimited Internet Access, not Unlimited use. In other words, you can be connected to the network forever if you wish, not download the planet. Can anyone show me where it says, on *ANY* ad, where an ISP states Unlimited data transfers for residential services? I have nothing to ever worry about myself, I don't light up a newsreader and try to download everything in alt.binaries.dvd. LOL! Of course, YMMV, If I remember right, it was AOL dialup who started charging per hour back in the day. That is what sparked competing ISPs to start advertising "unlimited" internet access, meaning unlimited TIME. Somehow, people re-translated that into "unlimited amounts".
Now that broadband is commonplace and people can download at very quick speeds, the term "unlimited" needs to be redefined. I don't think there is even a dialup ISP that charges per hour anymore that I know of. |
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js1
@swbell.net
| reply to openbox9
Sounds like if they actually do have to "throttle" a user's access, they probably aren't building/maintaining their network properly in the first place. It just seems to be common sense if you have a certain number of users, you should be able to handle the load. |
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js1
@swbell.net | reply to anomus
Just wondering, what's a "cantenna"? |
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js1
@swbell.net
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I'm not sure. Most people who use the internet, non-technical people who don't really know how it works, probably would think so and it doesn't mean they're stupid. They sign up for broadband access like they would for phone services.
Now if you have a cell phone plan that has unlimited use, then it doesn't count your minutes so you could talk on it all the time if you wanted to with no additional charge. I can see how people signing up for "unlimited" broadband would think the same way. |
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CLEVELTECH
join:2006-12-21
02107
| reply to fiberguy
To respond to your comment, I NEVER once walked away hurt AND I was not looking for sympathy either. I am warning people. People like you don't listen.And the thing that gets me is WHY? MY guess is that you are employed by providers like Comcast and that's why you take on the gang-up and bully approach to people like me.
Let me remind YOU that I was LIED to by Comcast, Alright? They advertised their service as Unlimited. I don't care what you have to say. They advertised it and that's it. That is why I got it. I NEVER had a problem with Cox Communications that is when I lived in RI. When I got promoted to my new job in Massachusetts, I shopped around and the two choices were Comcast and Verizon. I called up Comcast first and I questioned the Rep and asked about any bandwidth caps Or limits and I clearly stated to the rep that I heard about this and she again told me that there are NO LIMITS on the connection. And 7 months later, I get a phone call from an 857 area code from a Comcast abuse department rep threatening me to limit my downloads other wise I'd be cut off for a year. He wouldn't tell me WHAT those limits are AND went further (and all this time he was very rude and condescending towards me) in lying telling me that there are no limits. I then said to him I'd be wiling to pay for more bandwidth and a higher service which I later found out that it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever. I called back the Comcast office and I told them of this rude rep and I did not appreciate getting threatened like this ESPECIALLY since I am a PAYING customer. Fine that the service has limits, WHAT ARE THEY?
Let me explain something to all of you high and mighty Comcast-loving employees who bully anybody for speaking out against any monopoly that rips off people and what they advertise is never what they deliver: All it takes is one guy to speak out, spread the word and it spreads like wildfire.
Now why is it that an ISP like Cox and better yet Verizon can control the traffic and do it well but Comcast on the other hand can't and won't, would rather take this cheap bully type tactic? If it's true that they have made record profits, then why aren't they adding the technologies to better control the traffic on the network? The technology is available. I should know, I'm heading into the IT tech field.
Just to let you also know, Comcast can't provide good phone service either. They actually call people up threatening to cut their service if they don't "limit" their phone use either. I got this info from the inside from a Comcast employee.
I am not looking nor want your pity or sympathy, I'm here to warn people. And all of you high and holier-than-thow Comcast supporters you should warn people and tell them the truth that providers like Comcast have a limited service, and in many cases their network can't handle people that use the internet a lot. It is your responsibilty and duty instead of bullying and throwing stones at guys like me. |
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js1
@swbell.net
| reply to dadkins
Sorry, when you access the internet, that is data transfer. What is accessing the internet other than downloading and uploading data?
That would be like if a rental car company told me I had unlimited "use" of the car, but then after a certain number of miles the car wouldn't start. I can open the door and get in but not drive, and most people don't consider "using" a car to be just sitting in it doing nothing! Just like "using" a car means driving, to any reasonable person you're not accessing the internet if you can open the browser but nothing appears. |
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Loker
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join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND
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said by fiberguy :Gee... and where have we all heard that before, 200 times... oh yea! YOU! The people had the ability to set standards and prices for that system? HAH! Phone, my friend, has a HORRIBLE and INFAMOUS reputation for screwing the people.. FAR worse that what people think cable does... not to mention, cable isn't a utility like phone is. This person doesn't "bitch" about phone... except celebrates the end of it's tight grip on this nation. If it weren't for cable, telephone would still be sticking it to the people. Exactly, we jumped off Verizon the minute we could and have never looked back....
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quatrix
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join:2005-02-11
Davie, FL
1 edit | reply to DaMaGeINC
"I cant count how many I download. If its good. I got it! The stuff comes out in almost dvd quality and for free. Why would I want to drive my lazy ass across town to go spend $20+ to see a movie. I would be a very poor man if I paid for all the movies I downloaded. shesh." |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to js1
It's a high-gain microwave antenna, when home made usually consists of a Pringles can.
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