| torrent vs newsgroup speeds [compare] I hope I'm not thread crapping, as I seriously just would like to know the types of speeds people are getting through torrents and newsgroups?
I'm paying for the 5MBps connection but throuhg torrents/newsgroups I'm barely going over 130KB
newsgroups ofcourse atleast stay on point with 130KB but healthy (good number of seeders/leechers) torrents barely ever go above 130 and struggle to maintain 130 if that.
the only time I see good speeds is browsing the web lol.
The only thing holding me to stay with teksavvy is the fact that I actually CAN get newsgroups and torrents with minimal effect on my interenet browsing and packet shaping, otherwise, rogers is obviously alot faster.
is it just me though or is everyone else getting the same speeds? (I'm in Mississauga/Oakville area) |
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 R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON
1 edit | Generally Torrents are user to user connections so as much as you'd be able to download at say 300K or better your outbound and the person your pulling from's outbound would be between 70K and 120K max. As a result, to see 130K, unless your doing torrents with someone on a 100Meg Ethernet connection, you won't get much better.
We don't block any ports or throttle anyone, so your only bottleneck is you and your DSL profile (as established by Bell)....
Regards,
Rocky
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I was able to get up to 410 KB a few days ago, downloading torrents. Of course it really depends on the torrents. Some single torrent I can only get 30KB-40KB, some up to 200KB.
My speed test has been consistently around 510KB during peak hour (8-11 pm) the last 5 days or so. |
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R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON | said by RuralOtt:I was able to get up to 410 KB a few days ago, downloading torrents. Of course it really depends on the torrents. Some single torrent I can only get 30KB-40KB, some up to 200KB. My speed test has been consistently around 510KB during peak hour (8-11 pm) the last 5 days or so. Makes sense... There's probably a good chance you had a torrent over an "edu" connection or something like that to get the 410Kbps.... Had that of been the only torrent, you might have had your full line speed for pulling....
If there are any slowdowns at the moment it would be a Bell network issue, by geography, as as mentioned in a few other threads, we've been running at full speed now since last week....
Rocky
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just wanted to know where evereyone was at.
Also I do know the natuure of torrents and p2p in general and udnerstand how to actually go fast (which is why I explicitly stated *healthy* torrents) but I guess even that would bea flawed case because Im' not sure how the uplaod on there ends would be. But I assume I should be able to atleast reach 200/300KB on a healthy torrent since americans have tons of bandwidth to share =D.
as for newsgroups, is it set to 130? because it's pretty solid at around that speed. |
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R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
join:2005-05-19
Chatham, ON | said by astr0 :
just wanted to know where evereyone was at.
Also I do know the natuure of torrents and p2p in general and udnerstand how to actually go fast (which is why I explicitly stated *healthy* torrents) but I guess even that would bea flawed case because Im' not sure how the uplaod on there ends would be. But I assume I should be able to atleast reach 200/300KB on a healthy torrent since americans have tons of bandwidth to share =D.
LOL... yeah... if you can get the right upspeed connection, you might have fun with the US side for sure! 
as for newsgroups, is it set to 130? because it's pretty solid at around that speed.
Yes, the newsgroup service going through usenetserver is capped at 1Mbps which would have a max 120K/130K'ish speed.
Rocky
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I D/L a knoppix ISO 2 days ago, via Shareaza's built-in torrent facility.
I saturated my 3mb DSL pipe.
In my 2 years experience with TekSavvy I've come to the personal conclusion that they are the *last* place I should look if I have any problems - they take their service quality very seriously and any problems I've experienced are almost always nothing to do with them.
(One notable exception was my 7% packet loss issue, but that was actually an internal Bell routing issue {i.e. how Bell was routing the 3rd-party-DSL packets}. Even though I have only a DSL-login with TekSavvy {i.e. the responsibility for fixing the situation should have been assumed by Bell, my 'primary' DSL provider, but Bell *refused* to assist} TekSavvy was able to ignite some posterially-proximal candles beneath Bell and got things fixed up - IMO going above and beyond what they had to, given that I was only a DSL-login customer to them.)
So yeah, TekSavvy takes their network very seriously.
In your shoes I would suspect the people I'm uploading from (or the fact that there are not many of them for a given file you are downloading) as opposed to thinking that TekSavvy is not giving you full throughput (based on your DSL sync).
IMO you probably should do a speedtest (in a thread around here somewhere is some talk of good servers to test with) - if that comes up fine then the problem for sure isn't with TekSavvy. |
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perfect, just thought I'd get the answer straight from the horses mouth is all =D.
Honestly I'm just glad to have newsgroups again. When I was with rogers I missed them. I think I'll check how the torrents do during peak hours, I did check yesterday but they were still slow, but I'm sure the torretns were bad (not shared that well) so it's obviously to blame.
Thank's for the help I'll post what my reults are and see how they compare. |
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R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
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Chatham, ON | BellVictim was talking about »speedtest.cogeco.net for speed testing....
Rocky
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said by R0CKY:We don't block any ports or throttle anyone i'm curious - how is TS able to do this? if we accept the main ISPs' argument that BT ruins the 'experience' for all of their cusomters (what was that stat..the top 3% heavy users account for over 90% of the bandwidth used?), then shouldn't the same problem affect TS as well if they allow people to go full tilt?
(not trying to start anything, i'm just genuinely interested on how this whole thing works) |
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| said by MrDisco17:i'm curious - how is TS able to do this? if we accept the main ISPs' argument that BT ruins the 'experience' for all of their cusomters (what was that stat..the top 3% heavy users account for over 90% of the bandwidth used?), I tend to think that cable (for some reason) has attracted a higher proportion of heavy downloaders than DSL, so any such problem would be exacerbated for cable versus DSL.
But more importantly, methinks, is that the 'shared internet' for cable users begins at their cable modem. For DSL users the 'shared internet' begins further down the path. (Think of a worst-case scenario - you have 5 or 10 heavy down/uploaders *in your house* - your own throughput would definitely suffer. The architecture of cable is such that your neighbours are on your 'local LAN'. DSL is not immune to this type issue but has been deployed in such a fashion that the problem comes up much much less frequently).
Also, the DSL infrastructure may have been better designed or have a capacity benefit that is not enjoyed by cableco's. AIUI Roger's is not known for upgrading their equipment, so the performance hit may be a foreseeable consequence of penny-pinching on hardware (upgrades).
then shouldn't the same problem affect TS as well if they allow people to go full tilt?
Conceivably, yes. But in the case of TS I tend to think that they are *very well equipped* from a network capacity standpoint.
If Rogers wanted to give people full-throttle then from a technology standpoint, I suspect they could go a long way to improving things so as to be able to deliver that. But that costs $$$ and takes away from Ted's retirement funds.
(Maybe Rocky's just too young to be thinkin' about retirement |
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R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
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Chatham, ON | We're banking on having those heavy users tell their friends (that hopefully don't use as much) to come over our way and help balance the equation. Having two distinct networks where one is unlimited and one is capped with very different purposes for existing has so far made a win-win for us as our capped site protects the non-heavy downloaders while letting the bandwidth hogs exists on a lower cost network. We're doing a lot of transit these days so we're always negotiating different quality providers to bring into the mix. For example, we're likely going to be adding teleglobe transit, to the premium mix, who's seen as one of canada's best if not the best transit providers... So all and all we're getting a lot of clout with the right places to help encourage a win-win for all so long as the heavy users keep telling their non-heavy user friends to come along, and so far they are!
Rocky
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| Is it possible to keep us updated on this situation with possibly adding the teleglobe transit?
Pretty please 
Jonathan |
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R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
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Chatham, ON | yeah... this isn't a done deal by any means but it's looking like it will probably happen.... We'll let you all know how the transit mix will play out.
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| see currently i'm on a contract with bell which has the unlimited provision on it but i have no idea whether that will exist once the contract is up (i.e. if they force me onto a 30gb cap like all other new subscribers). i'm really thinking of jumping over to TS regardless (though its going to hurt giving up my email address :| )
what are 'transits'? is there a website out there that can explain this? |
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R0CKYTSI RockyPremium,VIP
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Chatham, ON | Hi MrDisco,
Here you go!
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_transit
Regards,
Rocky
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RbSX5
join:2006-01-17
Kingston, ON | reply to astr0
The fastest torrent speed I've hit on TekSaavy is 700kbps downloading MI:3 . |
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Lugie
join:2007-02-09
Toronto, ON | I'm seeing just over 500KBps on easynews.com via http. Torrents vary but I've definitely slipped over 200KBps on occasion. |
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| 500 Kbps or 500 kbps? HUGE difference between the two! |
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| ^ d'oh meant B vs b...couldn't edit the message. |
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