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Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:03:58 EDT

cubsfan4 posted : Making any limitations clear seems fair to me, too. Believe it or not, a lot of people who are hogging bandwidth have no idea they're doing it. They either don't understand the internet at all or don't know that their file sharing programs are also uploading material from them. As far as I'm concerned, a netequalizer type solution might not be a bad idea on a larger scale. Let people know that their music/movie/tvshow downloads will receive lower priority when the network is congested. In many cases, this will bring the issue to their attention for the first time and probably motivate them to be more conscious.

Re: Unlimited...

Mon, 05 Feb 2007 17:22:55 EDT

CLEVELTECH posted :
Comcast did advertise their service as UNLIMITED

»web.archive.org/web/200106062157···t.asp?.=.

Re: Unlimited...

Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:56:26 EDT

anon posted :

said by dadkins:

I pay for Speed and 24/7 Access. I get both!
I am not paying for terabytes of data transfers.
That would cost a hell of alot more than $52.95 per month!

Everything here works "As Advertised". Connection is always up, always fast when I need it, and I always have access to it.

THAT is Unlimited Access.

Stop ranting BS!!!! Most Comcast customers DO NOT receive speeds "As Advertised" i was formerly a happy adelphia hsi customer receiving over advertised 6/768 @ 6/840 and it was always as advertised... then came Comcast. It has been a horror show since they showed up. My speeds are between 1/640 - 3/640 not even near near advertised let alone what i was getting just a day before Comcast took over. So stop advertising your crappy comcast connection when most of the people who have/had comcast know its a crap/ripoff service :mad: .... (About the only time you'll receive good speed are like 1:00am - 10:00pm when everyone sleeping)and upload speed is always crap @640-740 kbps .... and on top of all this is there monthly cap -_-

Re: Unlimited...

Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:36:15 EDT

RadioDoc posted : Probably both are as idiotic as the other, as are those who continue to think they mean anything.

Glad to hear yours is going well and your provider knows what they are doing (as mine does).

How are your severs running on your cable connection, by the way?
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Re: Unlimited...

Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:23:00 EDT

davisx posted :

said by RadioDoc:

Funny though, that my DSL continues chugging along at 6016/768 24/7 without worry about clogged nodes, cable apologists, or the threat of a nastygram due to actual use of the service. I'll start believing people like fiberguy when the cable company he works for removes server prohibitions from their TOS/AUP.

I guess those "cable hog" commercials were right afterall...

Funny though, that my Cable connection continues chugging along at 9500+/950+ 24/7 without worry of distance limitations, slow speeds, or latency issues.

I guess those rabbit versus turtle commercials were right after all...

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:56:36 EDT

batterup posted :

said by kamm:

Business account has NOTHING to do with this. Stop spreading the corporate BS, please.

You porn addicted kids really don't expect me to pay for your bandwidth do you?

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 12:52:45 EDT

batterup posted :

said by koolman2:

Sure!

»www.gci.com/forhome/promos/xtrem···asd7.htm

Unlimited use 2.0Mbps/1.5Mbps $499.99

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:45:33 EDT

kamm posted :

said by BF69:

said by Michieru2:

Moron do you know what he could be transferring at all? It's idiots like you who jump to conclusions and create this hype bubble. Hell I probably use the same amount of bandwidth on simply downloading ISO's for my clients, damn updates or packages from respiratories. Hell I can't afford having tons of drives or CD's because then the crap is outdated a week later and I must re download burn and then transfer.

It's easier for me to simply download it to every machine.

Sounds like you should be using a BUSINESS acount then.

Business account has NOTHING to do with this. Stop spreading the corporate BS, please.
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Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:25:11 EDT

ThrowDemsOut posted :

said by Jafo232:

said by ThrowDemsOut:

Then you should get a pay for a BUSINESS service and not a residential one.

Maybe you should too? If you get one email about business, or one phone call through your VOIP phone from your job (if you have one), or have to do ANY business related surfing from home, then you should get a business account.

In fact, if anyone from work calls your POTS line, you should call your telephone company and demand you get a business account.

Now, if you would like to re-enter the world of reality, we are all here waiting for you.

Your points are not responsive to the main issue. You are RUNNING a BUSINESS thru your home internet connection. All the points you raise don't address that. Instead they go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with what you are doing.
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Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 11:10:47 EDT

Jafo232 posted :

said by ThrowDemsOut:

Then you should get a pay for a BUSINESS service and not a residential one.

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:58:20 EDT

ThrowDemsOut posted : Then you should get a pay for a BUSINESS service and not a residential one.

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 10:38:15 EDT

Jafo232 posted :

said by FiL:

...

sounds like whenever someones asked "why are you downloading so much" the automatic response is: updates/backups/college finals papers and excell spreads...lol

which sounds funny, pirate!

Not saying anythings wrong with that, but grow some ****'s why dont ya!

Sheesh, you do realize not everyone uses their PC to jerk off to right?

If I performed all the backups that I am supposed to, I could easily burn through 200 GB in a month. I run a very small hosting service that I administer remotely. I try to backup everyones site once a week (I also give them an option to do it themselves daily). If I had my own datacenter, I would do it daily. When I download the backups, it is about 25 GB's each time.

My Xbox 360 alone downloads about 25 GB a month. Each movie downloaded in HD (from Xbox Live) is about 4.7 GB and many of the game demo's are between 1 and 2 GB. This doesn't even take into account all the bandwidth used during online game play.

Take into account all the other downloading involved in just general surfing, and web development, 200 GB's is easily attainable for myself without even seeing one money shot.

So basically your assumption that anyone using as much bandwidth as I and others do makes them pirates is not only stupid, it is not backed up by anything other than your unsatisfied libido.
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Re: Unlimited... Canada is a joke!

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:31:09 EDT

bohn posted : Up in Canada our balls are capped and speed throttled. As well they'll speed throttle your bank account if you go over those rinky dinky 30 gigabytes a month caps.

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:59:30 EDT

koolman2 posted : Sure!

»www.gci.com/forhome/promos/xtrem···asd7.htm
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Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:08:40 EDT

RadioDoc posted :

said by fiberguy:

the truth is most people don't care as they are not affected by this..

Then there is no downside to specifying, in the advertising, in a typeface you don't need a magnifying glass to read:

"Use of the service is subject to data transfer limits and if you exceed those limits your access will be curtailed or terminated without notice."

I mean, if nobody cares and they won't be affected, why not come clean up front?
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Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:11:07 EDT

CLEVELTECH posted : comcast employee continued....

Comcast will never clearly state anything because if they do that they can't compete LOL they can't justify getting signed up for 33 a month no installation fee (bullshit they sneak it in hoping you won't notice) then they tell you 33.00 a month but forget to remind you that is for 6 months even though ad says 1 year, then it goes up to 49.99 a month of course then all you have to do is say, I saw a verizon special better or something then you get 33.00 again for 6 months

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:07:14 EDT

CLEVELTECH posted : And this is from a Comcast Employee

Subject: comcast employee
Message:
hello,

I, according to comcast, am still an employee on administrative leave with pay, we with an IQ above 10 know this means till we can print your final check.

You have probably seen I have responded to some of the idiots that have attacked you. They really do brainwash the empployees but the most important thing, is they intimidate them. Those employees who are defending comcast to you in a public forum could get fired just for defending them if you can believe that LOL!

I was fired because i believe customers complaints to much. Comcast motto (this is an undeclared motto it is a motto only taught to employees) Customer is always lying and trying to get something for free. When in fact it is actually Comcast that is trying to get money for nothing. when a persons service has not been working properly, we don't offer a credit unless they ask! Comcast has no problem taking your money, if you are willing to pay it, even when service doesn't work.

Here is a story that will make you laugh your as off. Dec 14th we had one of the worst wind and rain storms ever in washington sate seattle area. over 1,000,000 people without power, cable, and phone. we were not allowed to go fix cable lines until power put theres up first. we sent out a press release saying all installs and disconnects were put on hold until every comcast customer was restored. So a lady calls in and says, my cable and power is down a tree fell on my roof and knockedthe cables down. we told her we could not come fix her cable line till her power lines were fixed. she understood. well she was unaware and the comcast employee did not tell her she was over due on her bill. well when an account hits 82 days past due you are interupted in service. if it goes 92 days you are diconnected from the pole. well on the 16th r 17th of dec she became 92 days. and all those techs that were supposed to be restoring services, one of them didn't get the memo the sent a tech out to disconnect her even though she had no service any way and still no electricity. alot of people were without both for 2 weeks. so he went out the lady saw him climbing the pole and said, you should stay away from there they haven't fixed my power yet. the guy told the lady to mind her business he is going to shut her cable off as he was ordered to. He hooked or bumped something caused a power surge to go into the ladys house it blew up her microwave, and caught her refridgerator on fire and he got zapped! All over comcast greed. If they had been doing what they told the press they were doing restoring outages with every available man this would not have happened.

so anyway, I am not sure what the band limit is but I also know that their "unlimited Long Distance" is not unlimited either. I work in collections and we were calling people all the time telling them to lower usage or we would have to charge them business rates? It just doesn't make sense. If they cal another country if they get say 150.00 in long distance say in a 2 week period they shut them off till they pay it b4 they turn long distance back on. no matter how long customer is with us.

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 01:01:07 EDT

RadioDoc posted : It's a high-gain microwave antenna, when home made usually consists of a Pringles can.

»www.cantenna.com/

Re: Unlimited...

Fri, 02 Feb 2007 00:23:01 EDT

quatrix posted : "I cant count how many I download. If its good. I got it! The stuff comes out in almost dvd quality and for free. Why would I want to drive my lazy ass across town to go spend $20+ to see a movie. I would be a very poor man if I paid for all the movies I downloaded. shesh."

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:00:01 EDT

Loker posted :

said by fiberguy:

Gee... and where have we all heard that before, 200 times... oh yea! YOU!

The people had the ability to set standards and prices for that system? HAH! Phone, my friend, has a HORRIBLE and INFAMOUS reputation for screwing the people.. FAR worse that what people think cable does... not to mention, cable isn't a utility like phone is.

This person doesn't "bitch" about phone... except celebrates the end of it's tight grip on this nation. If it weren't for cable, telephone would still be sticking it to the people.

Exactly, we jumped off Verizon the minute we could and have never looked back....
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:48:29 EDT

anon posted : Sorry, when you access the internet, that is data transfer. What is accessing the internet other than downloading and uploading data?

That would be like if a rental car company told me I had unlimited "use" of the car, but then after a certain number of miles the car wouldn't start. I can open the door and get in but not drive, and most people don't consider "using" a car to be just sitting in it doing nothing! Just like "using" a car means driving, to any reasonable person you're not accessing the internet if you can open the browser but nothing appears.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:47:53 EDT

CLEVELTECH posted : To respond to your comment, I NEVER once walked away hurt AND I was not looking for sympathy either. I am warning people. People like you don't listen.And the thing that gets me is WHY? MY guess is that you are employed by providers like Comcast and that's why you take on the gang-up and bully approach to people like me.

Let me remind YOU that I was LIED to by Comcast, Alright? They advertised their service as Unlimited. I don't care what you have to say. They advertised it and that's it. That is why I got it. I NEVER had a problem with Cox Communications that is when I lived in RI. When I got promoted to my new job in Massachusetts, I shopped around and the two choices were Comcast and Verizon. I called up Comcast first and I questioned the Rep and asked about any bandwidth caps Or limits and I clearly stated to the rep that I heard about this and she again told me that there are NO LIMITS on the connection. And 7 months later, I get a phone call from an 857 area code from a Comcast abuse department rep threatening me to limit my downloads other wise I'd be cut off for a year. He wouldn't tell me WHAT those limits are AND went further (and all this time he was very rude and condescending towards me) in lying telling me that there are no limits. I then said to him I'd be wiling to pay for more bandwidth and a higher service which I later found out that it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever. I called back the Comcast office and I told them of this rude rep and I did not appreciate getting threatened like this ESPECIALLY since I am a PAYING customer. Fine that the service has limits, WHAT ARE THEY?
Let me explain something to all of you high and mighty Comcast-loving employees who bully anybody for speaking out against any monopoly that rips off people and what they advertise is never what they deliver: All it takes is one guy to speak out, spread the word and it spreads like wildfire.
Now why is it that an ISP like Cox and better yet Verizon can control the traffic and do it well but Comcast on the other hand can't and won't, would rather take this cheap bully type tactic? If it's true that they have made record profits, then why aren't they adding the technologies to better control the traffic on the network? The technology is available. I should know, I'm heading into the IT tech field.
Just to let you also know, Comcast can't provide good phone service either. They actually call people up threatening to cut their service if they don't "limit" their phone use either. I got this info from the inside from a Comcast employee.

I am not looking nor want your pity or sympathy, I'm here to warn people. And all of you high and holier-than-thow Comcast supporters you should warn people and tell them the truth that providers like Comcast have a limited service, and in many cases their network can't handle people that use the internet a lot. It is your responsibilty and duty instead of bullying and throwing stones at guys like me.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:38:56 EDT

anon posted : I'm not sure. Most people who use the internet, non-technical people who don't really know how it works, probably would think so and it doesn't mean they're stupid. They sign up for broadband access like they would for phone services.

Now if you have a cell phone plan that has unlimited use, then it doesn't count your minutes so you could talk on it all the time if you wanted to with no additional charge. I can see how people signing up for "unlimited" broadband would think the same way.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:36:54 EDT

anon posted : Just wondering, what's a "cantenna"?

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:32:06 EDT

anon posted : Sounds like if they actually do have to "throttle" a user's access, they probably aren't building/maintaining their network properly in the first place. It just seems to be common sense if you have a certain number of users, you should be able to handle the load.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:30:45 EDT

MadMANN posted :

said by dadkins:

Most(if not all) ISPs advertise - Unlimited Internet Access, not Unlimited use.

In other words, you can be connected to the network forever if you wish, not download the planet.

Can anyone show me where it says, on *ANY* ad, where an ISP states Unlimited data transfers for residential services?

I have nothing to ever worry about myself, I don't light up a newsreader and try to download everything in alt.binaries.dvd. LOL!

Of course, YMMV,

If I remember right, it was AOL dialup who started charging per hour back in the day. That is what sparked competing ISPs to start advertising "unlimited" internet access, meaning unlimited TIME. Somehow, people re-translated that into "unlimited amounts".

Now that broadband is commonplace and people can download at very quick speeds, the term "unlimited" needs to be redefined. I don't think there is even a dialup ISP that charges per hour anymore that I know of.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:28:49 EDT

anon posted : Digital packets aren't the same as a physical commodity like soda. The problem is politicans and regulators now consider telcos as such, as traditional free market companies, when really internet access should be a utility. If it isn't unlimited, they shouldn't advertise it as such.

That would be like if I had an unlimited long-distance phone service, but then because I was using it too much (in the opinion of someone at the company), they decided to limit the areas I could call to.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:00:56 EDT

Mordhem posted : Same here! :) lol

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:59:51 EDT

novaflare posted :

said by Obliteration:

Any moron knows that college papers and excel sheets won't ever get past 2GB in a month no matter how big of a load you have.

Hell, HD porn takes up a lot of space. You can do 20+ gigs on that be it legal. PLENTY of things out there to download.

You claiming others are pirates is beyond hilarious, can you prove it? I can find you many things you can download over the Internet and gets gigs a month. You don't know what that file is or isn't so just keep your mouth shut.

Hell i can hit 200 gigs a month just beta testing a few games. I had my upload to like 30 gigs before. Pretty funny when TWC called and alerted me to a masive increase in up stream useage. They were worried that i might have been turned in to a pirated software dump. What happened was was hosting a 1 gig beta client download for a game and 2 40 meg updates heh. That month 3 games I was beta testing. Had 1 gig or so client updates and each had over 400 megs of updates. I was testign on at the time 3 computers. Now one had 3 full client downloads over the corse of a month 1 had 1 and the other had 2.

Because of how serious a beta tester i am i tend to do alot of driver updates windows reinstalls and apply various service packs and other large updates and try to pin down the cause of a bug.

Like you said it is not hard to hit that sort of useage legally. Was my hosting of the 1 gig client against my tos not really all my toss said was no "public" "web" servers. My server was a web server yes but it was not serving any web content. It also was not a public server as the beta test was a closed non public beta/alpha. At that time there were less than 500 testers total who worked in 3 time periods essentially shifts. group 1 could only log in between 7 am and 4 pm secound shift started at 4 to 1 am last went from 1 am to 7 am. I only served to shift 1.
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:46:28 EDT

Obliteration posted :

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:15:17 EDT

batterup posted :

said by axus:

Yeah, a better analogy would be the Department of Transportation limiting the number of miles you can drive in a month, because when people drive too much they have to build more roads and there's a lot of traffic.

People put up with traffic, speed limits, and state taxes, but we're not going to accept road mileage limits. What ISPs should do is continue upgrading at the pace their revenue can afford, and let people be limited by the heavy traffic.

The more miles one drives the more gas one uses and the more tax one pays. One pays for every mile.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:34:48 EDT

DaMaGeINC posted :

said by BF69:

said by Loker:

sometimes my bandwidth usage can get excessive (I think I was over 200 GB's one month) and I have yet to have any issues with Comcast....

Man you steal a lot of stuff.

I sure do? guna call me a stealer too? Please stop ur everyone's a theif crap. No one cares what you think of them.
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:23:58 EDT

fiberguy posted : Gee... and where have we all heard that before, 200 times... oh yea! YOU!

The people had the ability to set standards and prices for that system? HAH! Phone, my friend, has a HORRIBLE and INFAMOUS reputation for screwing the people.. FAR worse that what people think cable does... not to mention, cable isn't a utility like phone is.

This person doesn't "bitch" about phone... except celebrates the end of it's tight grip on this nation. If it weren't for cable, telephone would still be sticking it to the people.
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:23:26 EDT

John Galt posted :

said by fiberguy:

Throttling the users account would be, in my opinion, fair!

That is what these folks think...

»www.netequalizer.com/
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:22:33 EDT

FiL posted : ...

sounds like whenever someones asked "why are you downloading so much" the automatic response is: updates/backups/college finals papers and excell spreads...lol

which sounds funny, pirate!

Not saying anythings wrong with that, but grow some ****'s why dont ya!

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:19:14 EDT

axus posted : Yeah, a better analogy would be the Department of Transportation limiting the number of miles you can drive in a month, because when people drive too much they have to build more roads and there's a lot of traffic.

People put up with traffic, speed limits, and state taxes, but we're not going to accept road mileage limits. What ISPs should do is continue upgrading at the pace their revenue can afford, and let people be limited by the heavy traffic.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:15:04 EDT

axus posted : Sounds like you shouldn't be so upset that he's getting a good deal from his internet provider

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:09:41 EDT

dadkins posted :

said by AnonProxy:

Absolutely not for this discussion.

The common vernacular of "Internet Access" means that there is the ability to access the Internet for use.

Use and abuse have two very different meanings.
Since it is Comcast's(or whomever's) network, and you & I agreed to the TOS/AUP, we have to accept whatever they say!

*WE* are free to terminate our services at any time and look for another provider.

I have nothing to worry about.
Do you?
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:06:57 EDT

dadkins posted : Right!
Usable, not ABUSABLE.

If anyone has the need to download multi-hundred GBs of data, get something other than a residential service.

Unlimited *ACCESS* means - unlimited access to the service, not unlimited data transfers.

It doesn't matter what you or I interpret what it means, it's THEIR network!

If they say no more, you get no more!
If you agreed to this, then you are SOL!

Since I have never gone over 40GB per month, I can reasonably rest assured that I will never get a call.

Go ahead and do whatever you wish, I'll see you in Rants and Raves! ;)
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:00:22 EDT

RadioDoc posted :

»youtube.com/watch?v=ubc7zFSyEbg#

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:58:47 EDT

RadioDoc posted : Funny though, that my DSL continues chugging along at 6016/768 24/7 without worry about clogged nodes, cable apologists, or the threat of a nastygram due to actual use of the service. I'll start believing people like fiberguy when the cable company he works for removes server prohibitions from their TOS/AUP.

I guess those "cable hog" commercials were right afterall...
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:49:24 EDT

Nick posted : Ok, we need to clarify something...

Cable companies (while often do,) try not to piss off their customers. Lost customers = Lost Revenue

Cable companies will try not suspend your service which you equate to capping. Capping is "reducing capacity" for you to abuse the infrastructure and hinder other people's service. While before you could download at 10 megabits per second, they throttle you to half a megabit. This is not "denying you access", it's forcefully modifying your behavior in such a way that other paying customers are not affected.

Each Cable company does it differently, some will send you a warning letter saying you have been marked as using exceedingly large amounts of data. Others will throttle you as a warning. Eventually if you are considered as a repeat offender they cut you off. In the end Cable is not a right, it's not written into the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, it's a product you buy just like buying a happy meal at McDonalds, it's a business that must be profitable for it to be around.

As an excersize, locate a local place that allows you to refill your soda for free when you buy it at the place. Bring a large container with you and fill it up with your free soda and see how fast you get thrown out for abusing something you paid for.
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Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:34:34 EDT

BF69 posted :

Sounds like you should be using a BUSINESS acount then.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:22:00 EDT

AnonProxy posted : Absolutely not for this discussion.

The common vernacular of "Internet Access" means that there is the ability to access the Internet for use.

Re: Unlimited...

Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:18:03 EDT

AnonProxy posted : Access is a usable pipe, if they cap you at 10 GB of download a month...and then you can't access the Internet or e-mail. because you can no longer download anything, the pipe is not usable....that is not unlimited ACCESS, that's not even decent access.

By your definition, as long as they are giving you IP and you can't even go anywhere, that's proof of unlimited access.

And more so at least drop the straw man drama.
No one said I'm downloading or uploading or doing anything of the sort at the max capacity...I am offering an example, but as you seem to need to make it inflametory I will give you a simple example.

Let's say I have a business account, I have "unlimited INTERNET ACCESS" (as it is sold. I also have an web based offsite back up of my local business data. Every day I pump out about 300MB of data at 1am or so to my back up service...(I have a decent connection, 10/5)...so I do my thing, we do work every day run the office though the day use the Internet...then on day 16 or so no Internet...because why? I suddenly find out I have a total cap of 9 GB of data on my "UNLIMITED INTERNET ACCESS"

Short version, just tell people what they have, not make up some marketing term to complete.

If a rental car company said you had unlimited miles then charged you for ever mile after 300...they would end up in court by the AG of the state(s) they run in.

Unlimited means unlimited.