Re: Who Cares now, really? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17757929 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:33:04 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:33:04 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17763747 thender2 : a) :uhh: :uhh: :uhh:

b) No, I don't call it morality.

I just don't find it fair.

Torrent sites direct people to material, and make little-no money(usually the latter). They don't actually hold any of the content, and they are always taken down.

Yet a site that makes a boatload of money, off of actually _hosting_ the content(not pointing people to it, but being the source of it), receives no ill will.

I think the playing field should be more fair. Either youtube receives more crap, or torrent sites receive less.

For the record, I don't use torrent sites - they're too much of a pain in the ass, they were just trhe best example I could think of at the moment.

said by EnasYorl See Profile
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People sharing files that someone spent allot of money creating. Instead of paying for it. Are EXACTLY the same as someone who walks into a store and shoplifts. .
Several courts say it(filesharing, not for-sale-piracy) is not, but thanks for playing.

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And the theft not only affects the company your stealing from but the Parents/People who work there. Smaller bonuses, smaller benefits, all trickles down too the little guy in the end.


Your arguement is that it is against the law. If it is against the law, you shouldn't have to amend to your arguement. Once you begin arguing aftereffects, then you open the gate for me to.

Every record label you talk to will agree with the statement that 80% of what they try to promote flops due to bad promotion.

What better promotion is there than the internet? You'd think the fact that sales went up 11% in music the year napster became popular, and 5% the next, would be proof enough of that statement.

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said by thender2 See Profile :

Anyone who follows my news posts can see that I am always on the side of so called "piracy"

It's one thing to share HDTV shows. It's another to make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of other people's shows.

Call people who share files whatever you want - but they're not making money off of other people's work. They're sharing it because they want other people to see it, and maybe even buy it, because they have respect for the work. Youtube making money off of someone else's work is legitimately wrong.
People sharing files that someone spent allot of money creating. Instead of paying for it. Are EXACTLY the same as someone who walks into a store and shoplifts. And the theft not only affects the company your stealing from but the Parents/People who work there. Smaller bonuses, smaller benefits, all trickles down too the little guy in the end.

It's pretty black and white. But your glasses are Rose colored.

Trust me, I'd turn you into the Police in a NY second for Piracy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17762966 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 10:50:24 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17762637 Kearnstd : this is as stupid as when the NFL sued a bar for using one of those old school big sat dishes to pull a game from out of market because it was blacked out locally.
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said by GilbertMark See Profile :

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

How in the hell are they making money from someone watching a low quality 30second clip of a tv show? Ive never seen anything on youtube over a few min long.
You're kidding right? Have you ever been to the site? Look for these things they call banner ads. These ads generate money.....
What's a Banner Ad?
I use Firefox with Adblock Plus installed.
Ain't seen one of those in ages.
AFAIC, Viacom can shove their stupid low quality videos where it hurts.
There are plenty of other low quality faire on YouTube.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17760851 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:04:10 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17760847 DaMaGeINC :
said by kyramilan See Profile :

said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

And who the hell clicks on banner adds? I sure as hell dont.
Stupid people!
I guess their is a lot of money to be made on stupid people. You would think people were smarter, but obviously not.
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said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

And who the hell clicks on banner adds? I sure as hell dont.
Stupid people!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17760835 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:00:11 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17760008 batterup :
said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

How in the hell are they making money from someone watching a low quality 30second clip of a tv show? Ive never seen anything on youtube over a few min long.
YouTube pays Lime Light 1 million USD a month to stream the videos. What do you think this is run by a kid that lives in his mother's basement.

Now let us all chant---Net Neutrality.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17760008 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:40:53 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17759798 kyramilan :
said by thender2 See Profile :

said by chemaupr See Profile :

I agree. If I spent money developing tv programs(no matter how bad it is) and someone else without a license post it on a site and make money out of adds and banners linked to my program, I should be fairly compensated. After all, they are making money out of my efforts, their efforts none!
Anyone who follows my news posts can see that I am always on the side of so called "piracy"

It's one thing to share HDTV shows. It's another to make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of other people's shows.

Call people who share files whatever you want - but they're not making money off of other people's work. They're sharing it because they want other people to see it, and maybe even buy it, because they have respect for the work. Youtube making money off of someone else's work is legitimately wrong.
I guess you call your position morality? :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17759798 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:02:34 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17759082 Tzale :
said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

And who the hell clicks on banner adds? I sure as hell dont.
Are you stupid?

They make millions of dollars off banner ads. You might not click them, but enough people do... Not to mention just having them on a site like YouTube costs the advertisers a lot of money...

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said by chemaupr See Profile :

I agree. If I spent money developing tv programs(no matter how bad it is) and someone else without a license post it on a site and make money out of adds and banners linked to my program, I should be fairly compensated. After all, they are making money out of my efforts, their efforts none!
Anyone who follows my news posts can see that I am always on the side of so called "piracy"

It's one thing to share HDTV shows. It's another to make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of other people's shows.

Call people who share files whatever you want - but they're not making money off of other people's work. They're sharing it because they want other people to see it, and maybe even buy it, because they have respect for the work. Youtube making money off of someone else's work is legitimately wrong.
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Time to rewrite the DMCA.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758904 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:35:10 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758785 GilbertMark :
said by DaMaGeINC See Profile :

How in the hell are they making money from someone watching a low quality 30second clip of a tv show? Ive never seen anything on youtube over a few min long.
You're kidding right? Have you ever been to the site? Look for these things they call banner ads. These ads generate money.....
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758785 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:17:54 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758666 dadkins : Youtube blows!
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758666 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:55:54 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758626 DaMaGeINC : How in the hell are they making money from someone watching a low quality 30second clip of a tv show? Ive never seen anything on youtube over a few min long. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758626 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:49:06 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758526 chemaupr : I agree. If I spent money developing tv programs(no matter how bad it is) and someone else without a license post it on a site and make money out of adds and banners linked to my program, I should be fairly compensated. After all, they are making money out of my efforts, their efforts none! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758526 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:32:38 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758036 mrchris : Crybabies]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17758036 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:16:35 EDT Re: Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17757929 Boogeyman : Of course its about $$$. Google is making money from Viacom's content. Viacom wants compensation OR have the videos pulled. I think thats fair.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17757929 Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:58:20 EDT Who Cares now, really? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17757897 starreem : The resolution of streaming content is horrible at best. Clearly it's just about $$$
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