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LeftOfSanity
People Suck.

join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE

Wow.

Ol' JT. I guess everyone needs a hobby.

SD6

join:2005-03-26

I appreciate the posting. This is not exactly a hobby for some people.

And this whole saga goes to show that the "local franchises are necessary to ensure good customer service" argument just doesn't hold true.



JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
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·Verizon FiOS

I think it shows just the opposite. If the hands of the LFA weren't tied, they could impose meaningful consequences on meaningful metrics. But this is the only remedy the law allows (which isn't very effective).

Certainly competition is a better remedy - one which Montgomery County MD residents are begining to enjoy as Verizon continues deploying fiber.

Did you notice the number of complaints received by the county about Verizon?



halfband
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join:2002-06-01
Huntsville, AL
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·Comcast

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said by JTRockville:

Did you notice the number of complaints received by the county about Verizon?
Now if they only have 100 customers, that could be misleading . Getting FIOS must be like moving from the outhouse to the penthouse for many of the long suffering subscribers. Did you help them wire it? I know you were highly motivated.
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

I didn't help them wire it per se, but I did stalk follow the trucks around my 'hood with a camera, cheering, and shouting encouraging words, and begging for expediency.

Even though there are probably only 100 TV subscribers here, FiOS 'net has been available in some parts of the county for a few years - plenty of time to generate complaints (if there were any to be generated). But without exception, every single person I know who has FiOS speaks very highly of it.


SD6

join:2005-03-26

reply to JTRockville

said by JTRockville:

I think it shows just the opposite. If the hands of the LFA weren't tied, they could impose meaningful consequences on meaningful metrics. But this is the only remedy the law allows (which isn't very effective).

Certainly competition is a better remedy - one which Montgomery County MD residents are begining to enjoy as Verizon continues deploying fiber.

Did you notice the number of complaints received by the county about Verizon?
Your conclusion is based on a hypothesis (unproven if not disproven) that more regulation and remedies would result in better customer service. Let me point out some facts. 1) MoCo is one of the largest, richest, LFAs in the country. 2) MoCo has had some of the most extensive CaTV regulation in the country. 3) MoCo has had some of the worse CaTV customer service in the country. Those facts don't fit well with your hypothesis. The "if only the LFA could get more regulation, then it would work", just doesn't ring true to me.

Now what is a small 3,000 person town in PA with a part-time mayor supposed to do? Insist on multiple remedies for telephone response time? If the biggest and most active jurisdiction can't do it, what hope do they have? There are better things to bargain for in a franchise agreement than telephone answer times, that are fully permitted by the law, but the poor mayor is overmatched.

Competition is indeed the better remedy.

Verizon complaints are few. What's the point?


JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
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·Verizon FiOS

My point regarding Verizon's (lack of) complaints is: competition works better than regulation.

But I'm not sure how you've concluded that failed regulation based on meaningless metrics is iron-clad proof that all regulation is pointless. It seems to me that regulation is essential under monopolistic conditions, which is what we had in Montgomery County MD prior to Verizon's very recent fiber deployment.

So I'm not ready as you are to dismiss the concept of regulation, just because the meaningless metrics currently allowed by the FCC haven't been successful. But I do think towns should consider deploying municipal systems if they don't see any prospect for competition on the very near horizon.


SD6

join:2005-03-26

MoCo style regulation is beyond the practical capabilities of 95% of the LFAs out there. Thus, to say that more regulation would work is not a viable option at least to those 95%. Extensive regulation also disincentivises(sp?) new competitors and so perpetuates the monopolistic conditions.

I don't dismiss regulation entirely, it's just that there is so much bad regulation out there the likelihood of an LFA getting it right is low.

I do think muni or at least a solid bb strategy is preferable to trying to squeeze good service out of most CaTV companies.

btw, thanks again for submitting some solid material.



TraumaJunkie
Premium
join:2004-03-05
Knoxville, TN

reply to JTRockville
Compare apples to apples...how many FIOS subs vs Comcast subs.. Bring both those numbers THEN get respect. Instead you bring skewed numbers that only serve your own agenda.
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

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Comcast keeps the number of local subscribers as a tightly held secret. So does Verizon.

When filing the FCC 1205/1235/1240's, Comcast estimates subscribers based on system size, and apparently they don't do such a good job of it because the county's CPA had to make adjustments to the last filing.

If you have accurate subscriber counts, please enlighten us.



JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

reply to SD6

said by SD6:

I do think muni or at least a solid bb strategy is preferable to trying to squeeze good service out of most CaTV companies.
Well on that we can agree. btw - did you catch the "eight steps" in this morning's broadband bytes? I think Baller is always a good read:
»Morning Broadband Bytes

SD6

join:2005-03-26

Not much of substance there. When the steps are something like enact legislation, form a blue ribbon commission, study the problem, enact legislation, ..., I skim through pretty quickly. Political stuff doesn't interest me much.



JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD

Well, I haven't seen a more substantial US bb strategy (or any US strategy). I think it's a good place to start albeit late.


SD6

join:2005-03-26

I think the California Task Force has more of a sense of what they are going to do.



JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD

Got a link? I haven't heard anything it.


SD6

join:2005-03-26

www.calink.ca.gov



JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD

Wow! That's thorough! Thank you.


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