vanDSLuserfrom Vancouver 2010Premium
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| I don't get the move Unless it's just fluff for PR purposes.
-FairPlay forces people to use iPods to play iTunes store music
-Apple is the only company that makes iPods
Therefore DRM forcing people to buy iPods would be good from Apple's perspective hence this move by Jobs to say that eliminating DRM is a good thing doesn't make any sense.
Now, don't get me wrong, I think DRM is for the birds, it just makes no sense to me why Apple would want to allow their music to be played on other players. |
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| said by vanDSLuser:Now, don't get me wrong, I think DRM is for the birds, it just makes no sense to me why Apple would want to allow their music to be played on other players. Apple would still make money off the songs no matter what player they were on, plus people don't buy iPods for the 'lock in' as he stated. They buy them because they like them and work well, so removing the DRM wouldn't change that.
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 Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
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Erie, PA | reply to vanDSLuser
said by vanDSLuser:Unless it's just fluff for PR purposes. Does Itunes offer any non DRM'd music for sale (ala emusic)?
Consider that as you decide how honest Jobs is being about his desire to see DRM eliminated.
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 Count ZeroMD2BePremium
join:2007-01-18
Warner Robins, GA | reply to vanDSLuser
I think that Steve was pointing out that most people don't buy enough music from the iTunes Store to really force them to keep buying iPods (only 22 songs/ipod from iTS on average). |
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said by vanDSLuser:Unless it's just fluff for PR purposes. Now, don't get me wrong, I think DRM is for the birds, it just makes no sense to me why Apple would want to allow their music to be played on other players. It may all be PR, related to the fact that several EU countries and now the whole EU is thinking of hauling Apple into court for monopoly practices. By throwing the blame on the Music companies(3 of the big 4 music companies are EU companies), he can shift the blame back to the EU. That is, he's telling them to clean their own house up before throwing stones at his windows.
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 sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
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| said by fAcEtIOUs:That is, he's telling them to clean their own house up before throwing stones at his windows. No pun intended, of course.  |
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said by rexbinary:Apple would still make money off the songs no matter what player they were on, plus people don't buy iPods for the 'lock in' as he stated. They buy them because they like them and work well, so removing the DRM wouldn't change that. I believe that Steve Jobs has mentioned it numerous times that Apple doesn't make much off their music store. The big chunk of their share goes to recover operating expenses for that store, the rest goes to the record labels. iPods are Apple's bread and butter, that's what they are making the most money on these days.
And yes, I have an iPod and use it to play good old DRM-free MP3 files. If it didn't support them, I would have never even thought about getting one.
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said by Combat Chuck:Does Itunes offer any non DRM'd music for sale (ala emusic)? Consider that as you decide how honest Jobs is being about his desire to see DRM eliminated. Does eMusic offer the same music that iTunes offers? No. The big four companies that Steve mentions do not sell music on eMusic.
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 ssj4androidRedefining Reality
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Wyoming, MI | But is there an option to sell music on iTunes without DRM? As far as I know, there is not. |
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Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
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Erie, PA | said by ssj4android:But is there an option to sell music on iTunes without DRM? As far as I know, there is not. That's exactly what I mean. If Jobs was so convinced DRM was an undesirable thing he wouldn't be forcing people selling via Itunes to use Fair Play at all, and AFAIK if you want to sell via Itunes you have to use FairPlay DRM.
And cause I know it's coming any mentions of technical barriers preventing the Itunes store from selling non DRM music are hogwash pure and simple.
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