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TScheisskopf
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join:2005-02-13
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Can there be any more question...

That "ChairShill" Kevin Martin is as useless as mammalian protruberences on a male of the genus sus?

Any one of us should try handing off such specious data to our bosses, on the job, and see how many femtoseconds we last.


JTRockville
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Even if that's what your boss asked for?


Karl Bode
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reply to TScheisskopf
Listen you two...the sooner you get on board and start blaming everything on "regulatory uncertainty," the better off we're going to be.


TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
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reply to JTRockville
said by JTRockville See Profile :

Even if that's what your boss asked for?
Then, you should start looking, seriously and aggressively, for new employment. Why? Because when the boss get's his procreative nodules in a mangle over the bad data, he's gonna blame you and deny all knowledge.

You will take the hit, while the lying slug gets off.


TScheisskopf
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reply to Karl Bode
said by Karl Bode See Profile :

Listen you two...the sooner you get on board and start blaming everything on "regulatory uncertainty," the better off we're going to be.
Sorry, Karl. I will make sure I get my meds upped, so I can get into the correct and drooling frame of mind for such a position.


Karl Bode
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reply to TScheisskopf
Technically in this instance "taking the hit" will mean getting a million dollar a year job working at a think tank whose entire function is to spawn bad data....


JTRockville
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reply to TScheisskopf
Ditto


T1 Rocky

join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
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reply to Karl Bode
Karl -
Thanks for posting the story. One thing I don't follow though is if satelite is considered broadband then shouldn't the FCC stats reflect that American broadband penetration is 100%? Also, in the story it mentions that USA is 26th in the world in terms of broadband penetration. Who and how is that determined?

I think that with the telco's two pronged attack of lobbyists getting biased legislation passed and buying the media through MONSTER advertising budgets, we are only going to slip deeper further and further behind the rest of the world.


Karl Bode
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One thing I don't follow though is if satelite is considered broadband then shouldn't the FCC stats reflect that American broadband penetration is 100%?
Technically they say there's some satellite service in 90% of zip codes. I assume they're eliminating people with line of site issues. Cable modem and DSL are available to at least one customer in 88% of zip codes, according to the FCC.

The 26th in the world ranking is pulled from Isenberg's piece. I believe he takes the 11 million cellular total and subtracts it from the 54% growth, then compares it to OECD data.

For the record, I don't think adding 3G customers to this total is nearly as big of a deal as he does -- more important to me would be valid penetration data and bumping the minimum speed criteria to something more reasonable -- at least 1Mbps.


JTRockville
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Not everyone can get satellite, and there's a reason why the adoption rate is so pitiful.


T1 Rocky

join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
Sorry, I'm still confused. I thought satelite was available everywhere on the planet unless your underground. So who is an example of someone who can not get satelite internet?

MGP

join:2001-01-01
Olathe, KS

I have a friend that lives in a subdivision built in a tree-lined ravine. It's a beautiful subdivision but you can't get any kind of satellite based service there as the only "line-of-site" available is basically straight up...

I would say he qualifies as "satellite service not available".


Karl Bode
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reply to T1 Rocky
I think you need a 45 degree line of sight (I forget the degree) -- lots of people are blocked by buildings, trees, mountains, etc.


JTRockville
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...not to mention north-facing apartments...

Lots of things can get in the way of your "clear view of the southern sky".

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to T1 Rocky
There's also the point that you need to have the right type of satellite pointed at you. How cost efficient is it to launch a few geosynchronous satellites that provide adequate coverage to norther montana or maine. One satellite doesn't cover 1/2 the planet at once, plus there's that whole orbiting thing..

nasadude

join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast

reply to T1 Rocky
i find it hard to believe there are zip codes where not a single person can get satellite.

as we all know if a single person in a zip code can get a service, the whole zip code can get it

ergo, satellite should be available (according to the FCC) 100%!


evdodude

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Satellite uses spot beams, and each beam can only accommodate a limited # of users. (200?) So once QOS gets too low, they refuse to sign up any more users in that area. (Usually when it's way beyond good service.)

Also, Sprint EVDO is unlimited so it should be included in the figures.


T1 Rocky

join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
reply to Ahrenl
All - Thanks for the clarification.
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