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hopeflicker
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February 7th, @01:33PM

OHH my!

if they spotted any illicit images of "real or 'cartoon' minors", or face fines up to $300,000.
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So is a cartoon of a nude minor consider child porn??

You know, i'll all against child p0rn, but come on, a cartoon??
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Karl Bode
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So is this illegal?

russotto

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reply to hopeflicker
There are several laws making simulated child porn illegal. However, the Supreme Court has so far struck down those which have gotten to it. Congress will keep trying until they can put you in PMITA Federal Prison for a stick figure which is too short.


JTRockville
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D@MN Karl Bode See Profile!
Now it's in my cache. I'm doomed.


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reply to Karl Bode
I believe it shouldn't because its not a real person. I don't really care what other people do as its their business, unless it involves a child/minor they should stay out of it.
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reply to hopeflicker
So what is the argument against cartoons?
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MysticGogeta
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They want the ISP to monitor anime child pictures because they consider it child porn.
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halfband
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So there are illegal cartoons? I guess I live a sheltered life.
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reply to Karl Bode
I don't remember the specifics but I think there was a case where a guy went to prison for writing a story about sex with a child (or it might have been drawn, again not sure.)

There was a LOT of debate over it since no child was injured and that this looked like more of a "thought" crime.


kyramilan

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reply to Karl Bode
Karl, I just reported you. LOL!

iliketoplay1

join:2006-02-06
Merrill, WI

reply to hopeflicker
From wikipedia
"In the United States, child pornography is prohibited under both federal and state laws with some state laws including more or less restrictive definitions compared with federal law. Under federal law, child pornography is defined as visual depiction of minors (i.e. under 18) engaged in a sex act such as intercourse, oral sex, or masturbation as well as the lascivious depictions of the genitals." To get more of a run down go here »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_porn···d_States
and see what is or is not considered child porn.

MADx

join:2005-05-25
Richmond, IN
reply to Karl Bode
There goes all my Anime wallpapers


Fatal Vector

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And so...



It begins. The standard "protect the children" excuse and, once they have the door cracked, there will be more incremental steps, untill everything you do is monitored. If you fall for this, you deserve what you will eventually get.

That is correct, 5287, Smith W. Allways remember that big brother is watching because big brother loves you and wants to protect you and your children from thoughtcrime.

Remember: ALLWAYS report thoughtcrime, no matter who it is and, that truth is a lie and a lie is the truth.

Big brother is watching.


kyramilan

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reply to JTRockville
Re: OHH my!

With Anime, how can you tell?


hopeflicker
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said by kyramilan See Profile :

With Anime, how can you tell?
Teh government will make up a way
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said by kyramilan See Profile :

With Anime, how can you tell?
If you have to ask, it's illegal. Besides, isn't it illegal to ask if it's illegal?

(It may even be illegal to ask if asking is illegal. I'm *really* doomed now!)

bigjimc

join:2003-04-21
Middleboro, MA
reply to kyramilan
I'll know it when I see it.

Isn't that the legal definition?

bigjimc

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reply to Fatal Vector
Re: And so...

"What about the children" said the frantic mother from the Simpson's.


Snakeoil
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reply to Karl Bode
Re: OHH my!

To some this would be highly illegal. Do to the fact it appearrs to be a child showing a good deal of leg. But then again those same types want to make porn/strip clubs/breast feeding in public illegal. As well as not attending church and worshipping the deity they call "god".
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AquaBlaze
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reply to Karl Bode
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't precedent set that, while real pictures of kids will land you in jail, 2D/3D rendered works do not? (Seeing as how its hard to cause mental anguish to paper/pixels)

All arguements about animated child ethics aside, if its legal to own, then how is it "OK" to be reported to the feds over it now under these proposed bills?
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