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T1 Rocky

join:2002-11-15
Dallas, TX
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reply to openbox9
Re: thin line to tread

O yea, this is a great idea. And we should start holding the US highway transportation department responsible when drugs enter the country in vehicles. Everytime they find some mariguana in a hidden compartment in a car just grab a guy in an orange vest filling in a pot hole on the side of the street and drop him in the klink for 12 months. How can this plan fail?!?

openbox9

join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
I agree. The law is fine the way it is now. The ISPs are carriers and therefore are not liable for material transiting their network. The user is...WHICH IS WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY BELONGS.

Axekick

join:2005-05-01
Granite City, IL

reply to T1 Rocky
Agree completely. I will fully support any reasonable actions taken to protect children but this could spiral out of control. It is the government, who collects tax dollars for stopping these types of activities passing their responsibility to the ISP's whose function is providing Internet Service. Another "slippery slope" if this passes.


Vig
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reply to T1 Rocky
said by T1 Rocky See Profile :

Everytime they find some mariguana
Is that a lizard with the munchies?
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rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
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reply to Axekick
No problem. The FCC will create a new service tax called UMF (Universal Monitoring Fund). It will cost customers billions. The billions will require a huge FCC oversight department to reimburse providers.

This is just stupid. Do we expect the cell phone companies to monitor for and try to stop every drug sale that occurs over their network? Ridiculous.


cdru
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Fort Wayne, IN
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reply to openbox9
Wouldnt existing laws already cover finding illegal content through the course of their jobs? I know a teacher is obligated to inform authorities if they suspect or see evidence of abuse. If a ISP worker through the course of their job finds a cache of kiddie porn or warez or whatever say on a customer's personal website, aren't they obligated to inform the authorities then?
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deepblackmag

join:2004-12-27
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What kind of evidence. We should take a step back and look at some of these famous examples, such as the 4chan football screwup. The government has no business regulating the internet, a private interconnected 'series of tubes' as they celarly have zero understanding of how it works and who is responsible for what. Their judgement is so far from correct i wouldnt trust them to scoop up dead animals on the highway system, let alone try to regulate the most complex heavily traveled private traffic system on the planet.


cdru
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said by deepblackmag See Profile :

What kind of evidence. We should take a step back and look at some of these famous examples, such as the 4chan football screwup. The government has no business regulating the internet, a private interconnected 'series of tubes' as they celarly have zero understanding of how it works and who is responsible for what. Their judgement is so far from correct i wouldnt trust them to scoop up dead animals on the highway system, let alone try to regulate the most complex heavily traveled private traffic system on the planet.
I'm not looking for them to regulate the internet. It's obvious beyond any type of control as far as content. However just because they can't regulate it doesn't mean that everything becomes illegal.

My point I was trying to make is that I think people already have a duty to some degree to report to authorities, even if they have some form of a common carrier status, when they discover something that might be illegal. If an ISP found a collection of kiddie porn on their servers, report it to the authorities. If they found a website on their servers talking about another 9/11, report it to the authorites. I just don't think that there needs to be additional sets of laws that make ISPs have to go out and actively seek and prevent any types of issues, but if they do encounter one, do something about it.
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