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RadioDoc
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There is no such thng...

...as a 'disaster-proof transmitter tower'. No matter what you do, no matter what you think you've planned for, ma nature will eventually smack you down.

Broadcast facilities in SoCal are built to withstand earthquakes and are hardened against wind and utility outage. You know what's taken the most out in the last decade? Wildfire.

A 1500 foot TV tower was just taken out by a tornado in Florida--a tower designed to withstand category 4 hurricanes. The chances of a tornado that strong hitting the tower are tiny...but it happened.

Anyone thinking this is going to work is in on the payout.
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Matt
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said by RadioDoc:

...as a 'disaster-proof transmitter tower'. No matter what you do, no matter what you think you've planned for, ma nature will eventually smack you down.

Broadcast facilities in SoCal are built to withstand earthquakes and are hardened against wind and utility outage. You know what's taken the most out in the last decade? Wildfire.

A 1500 foot TV tower was just taken out by a tornado in Florida--a tower designed to withstand category 4 hurricanes. The chances of a tornado that strong hitting the tower are tiny...but it happened.

Anyone thinking this is going to work is in on the payout.
I think the idea is to build a network of 37,000 towers so if a few are taken out by a natural disaster or a terrorist, the network will still function. I don't think they are trying to say each tower will withstand anything thrown at it.
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keyboard5684
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reply to RadioDoc
I agree. There is no "disaster-proof" anything. Disaster is a pretty broad spectrum. Norad is even vulnerable.

I think the "push because of public safety" is a horrible way to go about generating a revenue stream. People in that sector generally do not know much about technology, there radios work and the pcs in the cars work, they just want it to work and this probably sounds good to them.

To me it looks more like horrible vultures praying on lack of knowledge, government mis-spending, and some of the fears people have due to the current world situation.

Vultures.



2kmaro
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ColossalCave

reply to RadioDoc
As soon as I saw the words "disaster-proof" I immediately thought of things like
Titanic
Hindenburg
WTC
Chernoble

ohhhhh, the arrogance. Oooohhhhhh, the stupidity.

Now if they'd said multiple redundant path and function provisioned... I'd had said "pretty wordy, what does it mean" but at least it wouldn't have claimed to be totally immune to disaster.

And I agree - looks like an attempt to make a buck or a few billion of them. Wonder who they plan on getting the continuing maintenance contracts after the whole thing is built?

and why didn't I think of this first? another opportunity to become a billionaire from the pockets of the taxpayers missed, damn!
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apollo80

join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA

said by 2kmaro:

ohhhhh, the arrogance. Oooohhhhhh, the stupidity.

Oh, the humanity!

Really, I thought turkeys COULD fly.

Sorry, WKRP reference there, I couldn't resist.

BTW, will such a tower survive, say, a NUCLEAR BLAST nearby?

RadioDoc
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Probably not. But it might survive a nucular one.


RadioDoc
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reply to 2kmaro
I just read part of their proposal. My spidey sense went into high tingle when I noticed this is being kited by a bunch of ex-Nextel folks. They're trying to get control of 30 MHz of spectrum to build and then lease out this system for commercial use when it's not needed for "emergency" use.

Smells like an end-run around the auction to me...
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RadioDoc
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reply to Matt
That's the problem. This is supposed to function in the area where the disaster is occurring/has occurred. No amount of generators is going to help you if the tower site is under 20 feet of water or if an F4 tornado decides to visit. The entire area will be down. Spend some time reading their proposals and filings. They are more concerned with getting their hands on some of that tasty 700 MHz band spectrum than anything.
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tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to RadioDoc
Yep. Murpheys law. I remember back in the summer, Sprint was going to work on a part of a major fiber path out west. They re-routed the traffic over to the redundent side then, as human stupidity would have it, some moron with a backhole chopped the redundent path in half. POOF!! West cost for more then just sprint customers were cut off for a few hours.



et3

@cox.net

actually that is totally wrong do your homework. Fiber cuts happen but this was not the case you got bad intel. Govt huh big surprise.


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