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tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

new ads

In NY Metro, there are already commercials aimed at competition between Cablevision and Verizon (ground zero for telco vs cableco competition). Verizon has ads for fios telling you when you buy all that high-def tv and computer equipment, your throwing it away when you hook up to cable..vision..
Cablevision's response?
Mailers stating that FIOS is missing channels (What News 12?, NY1, Hah! Keep em) Cablemodem entry level speed is still slower... 15/2 or 15/5, with 30/5 as boost.. they also proclaim themselves the Fiber experts... Hmm, really? Cablevision is also targeting the triple play package at FIOS customers.. $29.95 x 3 ? Anywho... Cablevision doesn't charge extra for hi-def equipment.. fios does, woo..

In the broadband wars Verizon has 10/2, 20/5, and 50/5 at low, medium and high prices to match. Cablevision is entry level and boost $10+ for the 30/5..

If Verizon wants to put that out there, Why not boost the entry level speed up from 10/2 to 15/5, move 20/5 to 30/5, and make 50mbit symmetric... at current prices?

So, raise the speeds already and SHUT UP!!
The 10 megabits is already OOOLD and the upstream weak & piddly-- your still trying to make your dsl customers not feel antsy and shift to cable company while you keep delaying Ny Metro Fiber Deployments... Huh?

majortom1029

join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY

IF cablevision actually releases the narad tech 50/50 then verizon will have to make a symetrical package. With the narad tech and it being switched the standard docsis stinks ads wont work.

Also FIOS IS NOT available in a lot of cablevision areas.

Verizon needs a lot of work before they can truly compete with cablevision.

Also Cablevision does have fiber to the premises. Its Called there Lightpath service (wich goes up to 10 gig service)

WETASS

join:2005-05-24
Pacoima, CA

THey need to release symmetrical speeds. And cover all of socal once they do that its gonna be great! I probably wont see it till 2010 or something like that

tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

reply to majortom1029
>Also FIOS IS NOT available in a lot of cablevision areas.
>Verizon needs a lot of work before they can truly compete >with cablevision.
>Also Cablevision does have fiber to the premises. Its Called there Lightpath service (which goes up to 10 gig service)
Verizon's overlay of Cablevision customer base: ~15% after about 2 1/2 years? In NY Metro, 85% of cablevision customers couldn't get fios.. doubtful that number will go up significantly in the next 2 1/2 years now does it..?
These points are true.. where the hell is the capex for 2007 going from Verizon's fttp deployment? We can only assume they've been redlining the most profitable deployments and services (fios-tv, wireless) at the expense of total overlay and maintaining legacy systems. These are not anomalous strategies but a concerted effort to keep costs down, profits up, shareholders happy, and attempts to be everything to everyone at the expense of the end consumer's choice and happiness.
IMHO, Verizon needs to reconsider their slow deployment schedule, because once the cable companies expand their networks into docis 3.0 or something else (narad), they can correctly exploit the saying: you can't get there from Verizon.. which is to say Verizon's FTTP network is not available everywhere **and hearkens back to the DSL failure/boondoggle**.. even the rhetoric from Verizon points to "LOOKING GOOD" while "DEPLOYING LESS"... its as mysterious as the war on terror.. you won't know which or when the broadband fttp black holes will be filled in, or with what technology: bpon, gpon, or when the bpons will be upgraded to gpons.

And the kicker is... they are hardly keeping a lid on prices.. something they claimed they would do.. perhaps this could have been partially forgiven if their deployment schedule had been implemented a bit quicker.. but nope..

BTW, if you have the $$CASH$$ Verizon can do 10gig-E easily with bonded GPONS, SYMMETRIC!
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