TCO1962
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join:2001-07-02
Champaign, IL
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| What are some typical T1 prices? We've been captive to the same WISP for 5 years now. Speeds have dwindled, no effort to offer tiered pricing, etc. etc.
My son and I are considering buying a T1 line. We "may" branch into a very mini WISP. Just curious about the latest pricing on T1's. Places to hunt? Ideas? Central Illinois. Thanks much!
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 robbin
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join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? Always best to hunt here at BBR first -- go to the ISP b2b forum and post a request for a T1 giving the first six digits of your phone number such as (123) 456-xxxx. You will have all kinds of offers (hopefully)!  | |
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TCO1962
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join:2001-07-02
Champaign, IL
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| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? said by robbin  :Always best to hunt here at BBR first -- go to the ISP b2b forum and post a request for a T1 giving the first six digits of your phone number such as (123) 456-xxxx. You will have all kinds of offers (hopefully)! Thanks. Didn't even know that existed. I used to haunt the WISP forums here years ago. Have sort of lost touch I guess!
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join:2006-05-02
Williamsport, IN | Re: What are some typical T1 prices? We just dropped T-1s in Champaign for $365 a month. These were provisioned to a tower right off of I-74.
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Inssomniak
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join:2005-04-06
Cayuga, ON | Re: What are some typical T1 prices? What I would do for a 365 dollar T1, best price here in Canada, is 900 bux a month, and that is with a contract, and in the city core. Outside of the city its 1300 bux a month, again with a contract. | |
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TCO1962
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join:2001-07-02
Champaign, IL
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| Sorry for being lazy, but how many folks could I "share" with and still maintain T1 speed? I have about 5 neighbors in a 2-3 mile area that would love this (LOS is perfect). If memory serves I think a T1 can support a LOT of folks before appreciable slowdowns are noticed.
If we did this very low key and low $ what am I looking at? Thanks in advance.
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| Keithb
join:2003-09-16
US | Re: What are some typical T1 prices? We currently have 38 clients with packages at 384 and 512 with no complaints on a single T1. | |
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join:2006-03-27
Dresden, TN
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? I won't say how many people we have on two bonded T1's but it's FAR FAR FAR higher than 38. We've already signed the paperwork on a DS3 to be installed within the next two months. We do currently suffer from some prime-time slowdowns. Nothing to bad though. No one's been complaining about it to us, but it is there. Hence the move to a DS3 and to get away from $1250 T1's.
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TCO1962
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join:2001-07-02
Champaign, IL
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| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? Thanks for the info. I know there's a plethora of info here but I've not delved into it. Was looking for some ballpark figures and such as we've reached the point of total frustration. Really not looking to go into biz. Just want good net that we can afford. Thanks again (you may be hearing more from me in the future) 
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John Galt
Forward, March
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Happy Camp
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| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? said by TCO1962 :Curious what kind of range we could expect with the equipment you linked me to. Presuming that you have clear LOS and sufficient height on both ends...3 to 12 miles or so.
There are many factors but that is a pretty good guess.
YMMV, of course. Literally!
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TCO1962
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join:2001-07-02
Champaign, IL
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| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? said by John Galt :said by TCO1962 :Curious what kind of range we could expect with the equipment you linked me to. Presuming that you have clear LOS and sufficient height on both ends...3 to 12 miles or so. There are many factors but that is a pretty good guess. YMMV, of course. Literally! Thanks much sir! Perfect LOS and I need no more than a 2 mile radius (3 tops). Sounds like the ticket eh?
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John Galt
Forward, March
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Happy Camp | Re: What are some typical T1 prices? Yep...!
Got some coordinates for your place?
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cmaenginsb
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join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA | You'll definately be able to provide good speeds to all 6 of you and probably up to 30 without much problems, beyond that you'll probably want to use some kind of bandwidth control.
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TCO1962
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join:2001-07-02
Champaign, IL
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| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? said by cmaenginsb :You'll definately be able to provide good speeds to all 6 of you and probably up to 30 without much problems, beyond that you'll probably want to use some kind of bandwidth control. That's what we want, just a core group of about 5-6 people running uncapped. We have 500 down and that doesn't get it (especially for me and another guy). We started with this outfit uncapped about 5 years ago. That lasted for a good two years. (1500 up and down). Now we're capped and they offer no tiers no matter how hard we plea (and offer more cash). Frustrating. Really looking into this seriously.
Not looking to make money, just provide for ourselves and a couple other neighbors in the farm community. Just paying for the T1 is all we need to accomplish (and the equip I suppose). We own our current equip. Maybe our start up wouldn't cost too much?
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VariableARK
join:2003-03-17
USA | this kindof goes along with this topic. since local loop is the most expensive part of the t1 or any line, is there any way to find out where all the COs in a given area are? | |
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John Galt
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Happy Camp
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| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? said by VariableARK :This kind of goes along with this topic. Since local loop is the most expensive part of the t1 or any line, is there any way to find out where all the COs in a given area are? Ask and you shall receive:
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Gives a map and everything.
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| | Diddy1
join:2003-07-19
Sidney, NE | Re: What are some typical T1 prices? That map is inaccurate, as far as DSL service goes, in my area  | |
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PersComp
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join:2005-08-17
Cayce, SC
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? said by Diddy1 :That map is inaccurate, as far as DSL service goes, in my area I found out today that it is inaccurate in my area also. I located a water tower that is about 4 miles from me and in a rural area. I made about 35 phone calls to potential subs today only to find out from several that I actually spoke to that they already have Bellsouth DSL. Geez....seems like they are everywhere around here! 
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| | VariableARK
join:2003-03-17
USA | is there a way to tell what carriers are out of each co, ie. broadwing, level 3, global crossings, etc. ? | |
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RockyBB
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join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? said by VariableARK :is there a way to tell what carriers are out of each co, ie. broadwing, level 3, global crossings, etc. ? Other than curiosity, the answer to that question is usually not very helpful. As many WISPs are in suburban or rural areas, the local central office is not likely to be a node location for a Tier I internet backbone provider. It most cases, one needs to backhaul the access circuit from the local central office to the carrier POP (point of presence).
Even if you were in downtown Chicago, knowing what carriers are in the local central office still doesn't do you the most good. Knowing that Carriers A, B, and C are in the local central office will make you call those carriers for pricing. By calling those carriers, you will be completely missing the boat of what is often the best way to purchase IP connections -- through the alternate channel, sometimes called resellers. Resellers almost always sell the same service at a lower cost than the same carrier directly.
When shopping for bandwidth, especially when you're not in an urban area, you need to check all sources -- pricing can vary wildly, sometimes one carrier can be double another carrier.
If you are needing new bandwidth, or approaching contract expiration of your current bandwidth, you owe it to your own bottom line to do comparison shopping. Right here at Broadband Reports forum there is a specific place to solicit quotes and where vendors are permitted to pitch their services. link to: »ISP b2b etc You will have to provide the true street address where the circuit is to be delivered, and the Bell assigned area code and exchange of the phone number at that location. Mention that you would be reselling the bandwidth, as some providers may not allow that at their lowest pricing points. Also mention if you have your own T1 router, or if you need the carrier to provide it. | |
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join:2003-03-17
USA
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? Well I am looking to move or build a new office and the location doesnt matter. I am in a unique position where to move about 10 miles more north I would have pricing for -150$. Every town I move north is also about a -$300 on a ds3.
It is entirely loop here! I just wanted to know where I should be looking to put up this building for the least expensive bandwidth? | |
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RockyBB
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join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? generally, "loop" costs are based on the distance from the Bell company local central office to the internet provider's POP. generally, the distance from your location to the local Bell company central office is not part of the equation. this would be different, of course, if we're talking fiber build outs and other unique factors which would require special construction just for you. But generally, if you're in Bumble Bee, Nebraska two T1 circuits from the same Tier I provider would be at the same cost regardless if you're across the street from the Bell company CO or 6 miles away.
Another reason not to try to figure out the pricing on your own is that some carriers will have "pricing" POPs. A pricing POP is a central office that is not really a node on the internet backbone, but the carrier will price out their service as if it is -- and absorb the backhaul costs. | |
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join:2006-03-27
Dresden, TN | Re: What are some typical T1 prices? We are fixing to migrate to a ds3, while pricing is still not the greatest ~2400 for 6mbs we provide the router, bellsouth is absorbing nearly 2 miles of fiber at THEIR cost!
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join:2006-05-15
Fort Frances, ON
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? Well... I just got a budgetary estimate today. Good thing I was sitting down.
T1 = $1521 per month
Co-location at CO = $1500 - $2500 per year
Tower attachment = $3000 - $4000 per year
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RockyBB
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join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO | Re: What are some typical T1 prices? come to America, the land of opportunity and competitive internet providers! | |
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join:2003-03-17
USA | milbrath thats dang good for a ds3, I am only 40 miles outside the city, and its 2700 for 6mb here. | |
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join:2006-03-27
Dresden, TN
| Re: What are some typical T1 prices? It's far better than the $1250 we were/are paying per T1, not quite low enough for me though. I've already signed the three year note to make sure it gets installed. Hoping after it's installed AT&T has some lower pricing and there is a good chance they will( I know of $1995 6mb). AT&T however would probably not run 2 miles of fiber at no-charge, but by the time we have it installed I may be able to get better pricing once they finish the merger since we already have the fiber.
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