What are some typical T1 prices? in Wireless Service Providers http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r17799246 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:43:51 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:43:51 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17820903 PersComp :
said by Diddy1 See Profile :

That map is inaccurate, as far as DSL service goes, in my area :(
I found out today that it is inaccurate in my area also. I located a water tower that is about 4 miles from me and in a rural area. I made about 35 phone calls to potential subs today only to find out from several that I actually spoke to that they already have Bellsouth DSL. Geez....seems like they are everywhere around here! :huh:
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Are these instructions or corrections???]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17820903 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:33:31 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17820866 milbrath : It's far better than the $1250 we were/are paying per T1, not quite low enough for me though. I've already signed the three year note to make sure it gets installed. Hoping after it's installed AT&T has some lower pricing and there is a good chance they will( I know of $1995 6mb). AT&T however would probably not run 2 miles of fiber at no-charge, but by the time we have it installed I may be able to get better pricing once they finish the merger since we already have the fiber.

BM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17820866 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:27:13 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819635 VariableARK : milbrath thats dang good for a ds3, I am only 40 miles outside the city, and its 2700 for 6mb here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819635 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:27:27 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819544 RockyBB : come to America, the land of opportunity and competitive internet providers!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819544 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:14:08 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819280 LLigetfa : Well... I just got a budgetary estimate today. Good thing I was sitting down.

T1 = $1521 per month
Co-location at CO = $1500 - $2500 per year
Tower attachment = $3000 - $4000 per year

...and then there are a whole bunch of one-time charges.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819280 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:36:51 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819195 milbrath : We are fixing to migrate to a ds3, while pricing is still not the greatest ~2400 for 6mbs we provide the router, bellsouth is absorbing nearly 2 miles of fiber at THEIR cost!

BM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819195 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:26:43 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819077 RockyBB : generally, "loop" costs are based on the distance from the Bell company local central office to the internet provider's POP. generally, the distance from your location to the local Bell company central office is not part of the equation. this would be different, of course, if we're talking fiber build outs and other unique factors which would require special construction just for you. But generally, if you're in Bumble Bee, Nebraska two T1 circuits from the same Tier I provider would be at the same cost regardless if you're across the street from the Bell company CO or 6 miles away.

Another reason not to try to figure out the pricing on your own is that some carriers will have "pricing" POPs. A pricing POP is a central office that is not really a node on the internet backbone, but the carrier will price out their service as if it is -- and absorb the backhaul costs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17819077 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:10:43 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17818973 VariableARK : Well I am looking to move or build a new office and the location doesnt matter. I am in a unique position where to move about 10 miles more north I would have pricing for -150$. Every town I move north is also about a -$300 on a ds3.

It is entirely loop here! I just wanted to know where I should be looking to put up this building for the least expensive bandwidth?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17818973 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:54:49 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17818841 RockyBB :
said by VariableARK See Profile :

is there a way to tell what carriers are out of each co, ie. broadwing, level 3, global crossings, etc. ?
Other than curiosity, the answer to that question is usually not very helpful. As many WISPs are in suburban or rural areas, the local central office is not likely to be a node location for a Tier I internet backbone provider. It most cases, one needs to backhaul the access circuit from the local central office to the carrier POP (point of presence).

Even if you were in downtown Chicago, knowing what carriers are in the local central office still doesn't do you the most good. Knowing that Carriers A, B, and C are in the local central office will make you call those carriers for pricing. By calling those carriers, you will be completely missing the boat of what is often the best way to purchase IP connections -- through the alternate channel, sometimes called resellers. Resellers almost always sell the same service at a lower cost than the same carrier directly.

When shopping for bandwidth, especially when you're not in an urban area, you need to check all sources -- pricing can vary wildly, sometimes one carrier can be double another carrier.

If you are needing new bandwidth, or approaching contract expiration of your current bandwidth, you owe it to your own bottom line to do comparison shopping. Right here at Broadband Reports forum there is a specific place to solicit quotes and where vendors are permitted to pitch their services. link to: »ISP b2b etc You will have to provide the true street address where the circuit is to be delivered, and the Bell assigned area code and exchange of the phone number at that location. Mention that you would be reselling the bandwidth, as some providers may not allow that at their lowest pricing points. Also mention if you have your own T1 router, or if you need the carrier to provide it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17818841 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 14:33:51 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17817718 VariableARK : is there a way to tell what carriers are out of each co, ie. broadwing, level 3, global crossings, etc. ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17817718 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 11:17:11 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816254 John Galt : Yep...!

Got some coordinates for your place?
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816254 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:53:59 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816241 TCO1962 :
said by John Galt See Profile :

said by TCO1962 See Profile :

Curious what kind of range we could expect with the equipment you linked me to.
Presuming that you have clear LOS and sufficient height on both ends...3 to 12 miles or so.

There are many factors but that is a pretty good guess.

YMMV, of course. Literally!

;)
Thanks much sir! Perfect LOS and I need no more than a 2 mile radius (3 tops). Sounds like the ticket eh?
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»www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegr···llow/ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816241 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:49:04 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816231 Diddy1 : That map is inaccurate, as far as DSL service goes, in my area :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816231 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:47:26 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816189 John Galt :
said by TCO1962 See Profile :

Curious what kind of range we could expect with the equipment you linked me to.
Presuming that you have clear LOS and sufficient height on both ends...3 to 12 miles or so.

There are many factors but that is a pretty good guess.

YMMV, of course. Literally!

;)
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816189 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:30:23 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816174 John Galt :
said by VariableARK See Profile :

This kind of goes along with this topic. Since local loop is the most expensive part of the t1 or any line, is there any way to find out where all the COs in a given area are?
Ask and you shall receive:

»/coinfo

Gives a map and everything.

;)
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816174 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:23:30 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816055 VariableARK : this kindof goes along with this topic. since local loop is the most expensive part of the t1 or any line, is there any way to find out where all the COs in a given area are?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17816055 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:43:26 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17815980 TCO1962 :
said by John Galt See Profile :

said by TCO1962 See Profile :

Thanks again (you may be hearing more from me in the future) ;)
We'll be here...!

;)
Thanks John. Curious what kind of range we could expect with the equipment you linked me to.
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»www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegr···llow/ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17815980 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:28:30 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805974 John Galt :
said by TCO1962 See Profile :

Thanks again (you may be hearing more from me in the future) ;)
We'll be here...!

;)
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805974 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:28:32 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805972 TCO1962 : Thanks for the info. I know there's a plethora of info here but I've not delved into it. Was looking for some ballpark figures and such as we've reached the point of total frustration. Really not looking to go into biz. Just want good net that we can afford. Thanks again (you may be hearing more from me in the future) ;)
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»www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegr···llow/ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805972 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:25:47 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805958 John Galt :
said by TCO1962 See Profile :

If we did this very low key and low $ what am I looking at? Thanks in advance.
Since you're lazy...!

:p

Use this for you location:

»www.deliberant.com/estore/web/pc···dio.aspx

with this antenna:

»www.deliberant.com/estore/web/pc···nna.aspx

and a short jumper:

»www.deliberant.com/estore/web/pc···ter.aspx

Now, at your "subscriber" houses use these:

»www.deliberant.com/estore/web/pc···dio.aspx

These have the antennas built-in so you do not need another one.

Mount all of this stuff up as high as possible...higher is better. Some might suggest that you shouldn't use an omni but you probably have people all around you. If you get to 20 subs you should install another radio and use sector antennas.

Since you're lazy...if you took the time to read all the posts here about Deliberant equipment you would find that they get the job done. Many people here use them.

Normally they do not sell to "end users" but I think you might just find yourself being as WISP. Tell them you were referred by the forum. I am sure they have seen your post since they lurk here.

If you need more help, feel free to ask.

;)
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805958 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 04:10:53 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805919 TCO1962 :
said by cmaenginsb See Profile :

You'll definately be able to provide good speeds to all 6 of you and probably up to 30 without much problems, beyond that you'll probably want to use some kind of bandwidth control.
That's what we want, just a core group of about 5-6 people running uncapped. We have 500 down and that doesn't get it (especially for me and another guy). We started with this outfit uncapped about 5 years ago. That lasted for a good two years. (1500 up and down). Now we're capped and they offer no tiers no matter how hard we plea (and offer more cash). Frustrating. Really looking into this seriously.

Not looking to make money, just provide for ourselves and a couple other neighbors in the farm community. Just paying for the T1 is all we need to accomplish (and the equip I suppose). We own our current equip. Maybe our start up wouldn't cost too much?
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»www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegr···llow/ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805919 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:48:14 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805576 cmaenginsb : You'll definately be able to provide good speeds to all 6 of you and probably up to 30 without much problems, beyond that you'll probably want to use some kind of bandwidth control.
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CCNA, Comtrain Certified Tower Climber]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805576 Sat, 10 Feb 2007 01:23:49 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805088 milbrath : I won't say how many people we have on two bonded T1's but it's FAR FAR FAR higher than 38. We've already signed the paperwork on a DS3 to be installed within the next two months. We do currently suffer from some prime-time slowdowns. Nothing to bad though. No one's been complaining about it to us, but it is there. Hence the move to a DS3 and to get away from $1250 T1's.

BM]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805088 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:00:48 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805035 Keithb : We currently have 38 clients with packages at 384 and 512 with no complaints on a single T1.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17805035 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 21:51:31 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17804732 TCO1962 : Sorry for being lazy, but how many folks could I "share" with and still maintain T1 speed? I have about 5 neighbors in a 2-3 mile area that would love this (LOS is perfect). If memory serves I think a T1 can support a LOT of folks before appreciable slowdowns are noticed.

If we did this very low key and low $ what am I looking at? Thanks in advance.
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»www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegr···llow/ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17804732 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:48:44 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17804652 Inssomniak : What I would do for a 365 dollar T1, best price here in Canada, is 900 bux a month, and that is with a contract, and in the city core. Outside of the city its 1300 bux a month, again with a contract.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17804652 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:30:24 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17800492 j2sw : We just dropped T-1s in Champaign for $365 a month. These were provisioned to a tower right off of I-74.

Justin]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17800492 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:03:21 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17799384 TCO1962 :
said by robbin See Profile :

Always best to hunt here at BBR first -- go to the ISP b2b forum and post a request for a T1 giving the first six digits of your phone number such as (123) 456-xxxx. You will have all kinds of offers (hopefully)! :)
Thanks. Didn't even know that existed. I used to haunt the WISP forums here years ago. Have sort of lost touch I guess!
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»www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegr···llow/ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17799384 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:25:34 EDT Re: What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17799314 robbin : Always best to hunt here at BBR first -- go to the ISP b2b forum and post a request for a T1 giving the first six digits of your phone number such as (123) 456-xxxx. You will have all kinds of offers (hopefully)! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17799314 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:13:49 EDT What are some typical T1 prices? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17799246 TCO1962 : We've been captive to the same WISP for 5 years now. Speeds have dwindled, no effort to offer tiered pricing, etc. etc.

My son and I are considering buying a T1 line. We "may" branch into a very mini WISP. Just curious about the latest pricing on T1's. Places to hunt? Ideas? Central Illinois. Thanks much!
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»www.e85fuel.com »www.gm.com/company/onlygm/livegr···llow/ ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17799246 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:02:03 EDT