 qdemn7Smurf in My LoopPremium
join:2003-09-16
Fort Worth, TX
1 edit | Long Overdue This is WAY overdue. quote:
The Chronicle queried leading broadband providers -- AT&T, Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner Cable and EarthLink -- on these issues. Asked how subscribers can determine what broadband speeds they are getting, AT&T and Verizon said they provide customers programs that can check connection speeds at any given time.
"AT&T is providing customers with a tool to measure their own broadband performance," said company spokesman John Britton.
Comcast, EarthLink and Time Warner Cable said their customers can use any of several independent test programs to check their speeds. (To find these, type "broadband speed test" into a search engine.)
Sure you can check your speed. AFTER you have the service and are locked into the contract. |
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 MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX | Yeah, so is a price increase following if this passes. |
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 ronpinImagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | A 15% DSL speed overhead/loss is absolutely guaranteed! At least impose that statement!
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TheGhostPremium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL | reply to MysticGogeta
said by MysticGogeta:Yeah, so is a price increase following if this passes. As if a price increase would not follow anyway. This would just provide an "excuse" for increases. |
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Cod
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Kernersville, NC Reviews:
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said by ronpin:A 15% DSL speed overhead/loss is absolutely guaranteed! At least impose that statement! Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Check some DSL speed tests here sometime and see all of the people who have 6 meg service who constantly are running 6.2-6.4 mbps. |
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BBR has data on speeds already said by qdemn7:Sure you can check your speed. AFTER you have the service and are locked into the contract. Even before signing on the dotted line, you can go HERE at BBR and find out what speeds are available by vendor and by zip code:
Vendor search example:
»/archive?zip=&···t=Search
Zipcode search example:
»/archive/?zip=···t=Search
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to ronpin
Re: Long Overdue If the transport mechanism uses any type of network protocol there is overhead/loss. Show me one which is 100% efficient.
The trick is to over-provision to compensate. Some DSL providers do it (Embarq for one). Ameritech used to before SBC came in and "standardized" everything. It would be a simple matter for them to return to that. Some cable companies also over-provision so that your test results approach the advertised "speed".
What will probably happen, instead of a warm fuzzy truth-in-advertising glow we'll get even more obfuscation and no specific speeds advertised. It's easier to pay ad agencies than to pay competent network operations people.
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MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX | I'm waiting for the day of advertised 39.99 a month.. for something random! Today 7000 Kbps tomorrow 20 Kbps the next day.. who knows?
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Some folks would argue they have that already....  |
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 AMDUSERPremium
join:2003-05-28
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kudos:1 | reply to RadioDoc
Verizon does over provision their services.
If you ordered 3 Meg / 768k they would provision it at 3360 / 860.
They do the same with other dsl services as well. |
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said by Cod :
Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Grow up. |
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I would say that would be the very first time I have ever heard of a DSL provider over sync'ing. |
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 exocet_cmYou delete it, I'll find itPremium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:2 | reply to NetNanny
said by NetNanny :said by Cod :
Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Grow up. Age and maturity have nothing to do with Cod's statement.
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jp10558Premium
join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY | reply to Skippy25
Well, I'm sold 1m/128k DSL, but regularily test at 1.2m/240k ... I don't complain, though I wish faster speeds were offered  |
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 RideRedVista needs a popup blocker for VistaPremium
join:2005-06-18
USA | reply to Cod
said by Cod: Check some DSL speed tests here sometime and see all of the people who have 6 meg service who constantly are running 6.2-6.4 mbps. Looking at DSLR speed tests, this is not the case. The higher sync isn't enough to cover overhead. With Verizon DSL I was synced at 3.3Mb and saw just over 2.8Mb. Same with my 7.1Mb service with DSL Extreme. I was synced at well over 7Mb and was lucky to see 6.5Mb. Other ISP providers seem to have the same result. |
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join:2004-03-27
Richardson, TX | reply to TheGhost
said by TheGhost:said by MysticGogeta:Yeah, so is a price increase following if this passes. As if a price increase would not follow anyway. This would just provide an "excuse" for increases. They need an excuse?
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dbonamo
join:2002-12-19
Greenville, SC Reviews:
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said by AMDUSER:Verizon does over provision their services. If you ordered 3 Meg / 768k they would provision it at 3360 / 860. They do the same with other dsl services as well. May already been mention, but Bellsouth,opps ATT, over provisions, I have 3meg service, my line speed is 3550... |
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said by exocet_cm:said by NetNanny :said by Cod :
Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Grow up. Age and maturity have nothing to do with Cod's statement. »Stopping Sock Puppets, Shills & Astroturfers 
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 KylemaulLovin' My FirefoxPremium
join:2001-03-30
North Port, FL | reply to RideRed
Agreed with both RideRed & Cod---but---I've noticed that this is true the closer one gets to maximum offered speeds. My 'on the cheap' 786 DSL regularly hits at or above 786. When I paid for higher speeds, they fell short more often than not--many times not even close to what was being offered.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to qdemn7
Speaking of phone? or cable?
Either way - welcome to the world of 256kbps service for $42.95 a month.
It's what you already get in most cases and everything else is the bonus.. but, since everyone wants to be told something solid, this is what you are going to get.
BRAVO! people... now, push those caps too! You guys just keep on pushing us all into a slow speed high cost service with a low cap "as advertised" so they can charge per mb over, with much more expensive options for faster speed.
GREAT JOB PEOPLE!
and Qdemm7, you really need to read your paper work.
1) Only phone does contracts. There may be a cable system or two out there, but it's phone that does the contracts.
2) You have 30 days to cancel the service with out penalty.. so this myth that you are locked into a contract and THEN find out the speeds is false.
I'm sorry to say, but it's this mentality and reasoning and thinking of the public that are the ones that complain to the givernmnet to take action when it's clear NO ONE reads ANYTHING these days..
I guess we should all do away with terms of service, contracts and all the rest and the commercials shall be the contract for everything. 
Get real people!!
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