 MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX | reply to qdemn7
Re: Long Overdue Yeah, so is a price increase following if this passes. |
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 ronpinImagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | A 15% DSL speed overhead/loss is absolutely guaranteed! At least impose that statement!
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TheGhostPremium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL | reply to MysticGogeta
said by MysticGogeta:Yeah, so is a price increase following if this passes. As if a price increase would not follow anyway. This would just provide an "excuse" for increases. |
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Kernersville, NC Reviews:
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said by ronpin:A 15% DSL speed overhead/loss is absolutely guaranteed! At least impose that statement! Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Check some DSL speed tests here sometime and see all of the people who have 6 meg service who constantly are running 6.2-6.4 mbps. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to ronpin
If the transport mechanism uses any type of network protocol there is overhead/loss. Show me one which is 100% efficient.
The trick is to over-provision to compensate. Some DSL providers do it (Embarq for one). Ameritech used to before SBC came in and "standardized" everything. It would be a simple matter for them to return to that. Some cable companies also over-provision so that your test results approach the advertised "speed".
What will probably happen, instead of a warm fuzzy truth-in-advertising glow we'll get even more obfuscation and no specific speeds advertised. It's easier to pay ad agencies than to pay competent network operations people.
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MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
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League City, TX | I'm waiting for the day of advertised 39.99 a month.. for something random! Today 7000 Kbps tomorrow 20 Kbps the next day.. who knows?
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
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 AMDUSERPremium
join:2003-05-28
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kudos:1 | reply to RadioDoc
Verizon does over provision their services.
If you ordered 3 Meg / 768k they would provision it at 3360 / 860.
They do the same with other dsl services as well. |
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said by Cod :
Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Grow up. |
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I would say that would be the very first time I have ever heard of a DSL provider over sync'ing. |
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 exocet_cmYou delete it, I'll find itPremium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:2 | reply to NetNanny
said by NetNanny :said by Cod :
Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Grow up. Age and maturity have nothing to do with Cod's statement.
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jp10558Premium
join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY | reply to Skippy25
Well, I'm sold 1m/128k DSL, but regularily test at 1.2m/240k ... I don't complain, though I wish faster speeds were offered  |
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 RideRedVista needs a popup blocker for VistaPremium
join:2005-06-18
USA | reply to Cod
said by Cod: Check some DSL speed tests here sometime and see all of the people who have 6 meg service who constantly are running 6.2-6.4 mbps. Looking at DSLR speed tests, this is not the case. The higher sync isn't enough to cover overhead. With Verizon DSL I was synced at 3.3Mb and saw just over 2.8Mb. Same with my 7.1Mb service with DSL Extreme. I was synced at well over 7Mb and was lucky to see 6.5Mb. Other ISP providers seem to have the same result. |
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 BuriedCaesarIt's Not Polite To Stare.
join:2004-03-27
Richardson, TX | reply to TheGhost
said by TheGhost:said by MysticGogeta:Yeah, so is a price increase following if this passes. As if a price increase would not follow anyway. This would just provide an "excuse" for increases. They need an excuse?
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said by exocet_cm:said by NetNanny :said by Cod :
Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Grow up. Age and maturity have nothing to do with Cod's statement. »Stopping Sock Puppets, Shills & Astroturfers 
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dbonamo
join:2002-12-19
Greenville, SC Reviews:
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said by AMDUSER:Verizon does over provision their services. If you ordered 3 Meg / 768k they would provision it at 3360 / 860. They do the same with other dsl services as well. May already been mention, but Bellsouth,opps ATT, over provisions, I have 3meg service, my line speed is 3550... |
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join:2001-03-30
North Port, FL | reply to RideRed
Agreed with both RideRed & Cod---but---I've noticed that this is true the closer one gets to maximum offered speeds. My 'on the cheap' 786 DSL regularly hits at or above 786. When I paid for higher speeds, they fell short more often than not--many times not even close to what was being offered.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to BuriedCaesar
Are you serious?
Prices for internet generally go down, not up.
DSL has gone down.
Cable has gone down, per sey, in most cases as they up the speeds at no charge. And even then, MOST cable HSI customers in this country have not seen any major increases in years.
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MysticGogetaThe Robot DevilPremium
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League City, TX | said by fiberguy:Are you serious? Prices for internet generally go down, not up. DSL has gone down. Cable has gone down, per sey, in most cases as they up the speeds at no charge. And even then, MOST cable HSI customers in this country have not seen any major increases in years. WOW  Where were you when they raised the price from 12.99 to 14.99 for basic dsl?
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BuriedCaesarIt's Not Polite To Stare.
join:2004-03-27
Richardson, TX | reply to fiberguy
Are you perhaps being just a little sensitive?
I dropped cable when I moved - when someone offers an al la carte option for channels in which I am actually interested, then I'll perhaps take a closer look. Until then, the rabbit ears work just fine. What am I missing? Not much, really, in the grand scheme of things. Happily, I and my family aren't tethered to "what's on" all the time.
And I won't find a "cheaper" price on DSL until and unless I drop it for something else and then wait for the "come back, come back" offers. Not a hassle I'm willing to go through at this time, since I'm happy with what I'm getting and what I pay for it. Which suits me (and I'm sure, my provider) just fine.
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