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ronpin
Imagine Reality

join:2002-12-06
Nirvana

reply to MysticGogeta

Re: Long Overdue

A 15% DSL speed overhead/loss is absolutely guaranteed! At least impose that statement!
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Cod

join:2000-07-05
Kernersville, NC
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable

said by ronpin:

A 15% DSL speed overhead/loss is absolutely guaranteed! At least impose that statement!
Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate... Check some DSL speed tests here sometime and see all of the people who have 6 meg service who constantly are running 6.2-6.4 mbps.

RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11

reply to ronpin
If the transport mechanism uses any type of network protocol there is overhead/loss. Show me one which is 100% efficient.

The trick is to over-provision to compensate. Some DSL providers do it (Embarq for one). Ameritech used to before SBC came in and "standardized" everything. It would be a simple matter for them to return to that. Some cable companies also over-provision so that your test results approach the advertised "speed".

What will probably happen, instead of a warm fuzzy truth-in-advertising glow we'll get even more obfuscation and no specific speeds advertised. It's easier to pay ad agencies than to pay competent network operations people.
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MysticGogeta
The Robot Devil
Premium
join:2005-03-14
League City, TX

I'm waiting for the day of advertised 39.99 a month.. for something random! Today 7000 Kbps tomorrow 20 Kbps the next day.. who knows?
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RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11

Some folks would argue they have that already....



AMDUSER
Premium
join:2003-05-28
Earth
kudos:1

reply to RadioDoc
Verizon does over provision their services.
If you ordered 3 Meg / 768k they would provision it at 3360 / 860.
They do the same with other dsl services as well.



NetNanny

@cgocable.net

reply to Cod

said by Cod :

Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate...
Grow up.

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

reply to Cod
I would say that would be the very first time I have ever heard of a DSL provider over sync'ing.



exocet_cm
You delete it, I'll find it
Premium
join:2003-03-23
New Orleans, LA
kudos:2

reply to NetNanny

said by NetNanny :

said by Cod :

Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate...
Grow up.
Age and maturity have nothing to do with Cod's statement.
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jp10558
Premium
join:2005-06-24
Willseyville, NY

reply to Skippy25
Well, I'm sold 1m/128k DSL, but regularily test at 1.2m/240k ... I don't complain, though I wish faster speeds were offered



RideRed
Vista needs a popup blocker for Vista
Premium
join:2005-06-18
USA

reply to Cod

said by Cod:

Check some DSL speed tests here sometime and see all of the people who have 6 meg service who constantly are running 6.2-6.4 mbps.
Looking at DSLR speed tests, this is not the case. The higher sync isn't enough to cover overhead. With Verizon DSL I was synced at 3.3Mb and saw just over 2.8Mb. Same with my 7.1Mb service with DSL Extreme. I was synced at well over 7Mb and was lucky to see 6.5Mb. Other ISP providers seem to have the same result.


shillmaster

@speakeasy.net

reply to exocet_cm

said by exocet_cm:

said by NetNanny :

said by Cod :

Yah, for the misinformed like yourself who couldn't fathom to think that some DSL ISP's actually over sync to compensate...
Grow up.
Age and maturity have nothing to do with Cod's statement.
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dbonamo

join:2002-12-19
Greenville, SC
Reviews:
·AT&T DSL Service

reply to AMDUSER

said by AMDUSER:

Verizon does over provision their services.
If you ordered 3 Meg / 768k they would provision it at 3360 / 860.
They do the same with other dsl services as well.
May already been mention, but Bellsouth,opps ATT, over provisions, I have 3meg service, my line speed is 3550...


Kylemaul
Lovin' My Firefox
Premium
join:2001-03-30
North Port, FL

reply to RideRed
Agreed with both RideRed & Cod---but---I've noticed that this is true the closer one gets to maximum offered speeds. My 'on the cheap' 786 DSL regularly hits at or above 786. When I paid for higher speeds, they fell short more often than not--many times not even close to what was being offered.
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'The tighter the RIAA squeezes their grip, the more stars and systems will slip through their fingers.'
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phattieg

join:2001-04-29
Winter Park, FL
Reviews:
·Bright House

reply to AMDUSER

said by AMDUSER:

Verizon does over provision their services.
If you ordered 3 Meg / 768k they would provision it at 3360 / 860.
They do the same with other dsl services as well.
Usually, ISP's who have traffic shaping, will over provision slightly so the average equals your advertised speed. For some reason, this has to be done.
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