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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

reply to EnasYorl
Re: Any "GameRail" (low latency gamer option) users here?

This isn't much different than a tunneled connection. I suspect that gamerail is actually using and encrypted tunnel over someone elses backbone (still multiple links... just not visible). I get the same thing when I VPN into work.
1st hop ~ 60ms (Cisco VPN concentrator).
ICMP on some routers/LB's don't always give you what you want.

If it was a direct point to point link, I'd expect better.
I ran 256kbps frame relay across the country and had that kind of response.

[root@localhost html]# traceroute artofwarcentral.com
traceroute to artofwarcentral.com (72.36.157.210), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 zyxel642r (192.168.254.11) 0.785 ms 1.249 ms 1.287 ms
2 netblock-68-183-84-1.dslextreme.com (68.183.84.1) 10.722 ms 12.613 ms 12.792 ms
3 LAX1.CR1.Gig11-0.dslextreme.com (66.51.199.16) 10.682 ms 10.081 ms 9.984 ms
4 ge-5-1-115.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (63.209.70.133) 10.776 ms 13.278 ms 14.396 ms
5 ae-22-54.car2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.68.102.109) 11.880 ms 11.380 ms 11.561 ms
6 savvis-level3-10ge.LosAngeles1.Level3.net (4.68.110.94) 11.249 ms 13.445 ms 12.578 ms
7 dcr2-ge-3-0-0.losangeles.savvis.net (204.70.193.49) 10.659 ms 12.054 ms 11.446 ms
8 dcr1-as0-0.LosAngeles.savvis.net (204.70.192.117) 12.285 ms 15.135 ms dcr1-so-2-0-0.dallas.savvis.net (204.70.192.85) 49.814 ms
9 bhr1-pos-12-0.fortworthda1.savvis.net (208.172.131.82) 48.350 ms 47.692 ms dcr2-so-3-3-0.dallas.savvis.net (204.70.192.246) 47.852 ms
10 bhr1-pos-1-0.fortworthda1.savvis.net (208.172.129.230) 49.278 ms 49.746 ms 49.260 ms
11 216.39.69.206 (216.39.69.206) 48.258 ms 216.39.64.18 (216.39.64.18) 48.606 ms 48.104 ms
12 216.39.69.206 (216.39.69.206) 48.230 ms * *
13 210.157.36.72.reverse.layeredtech.com (72.36.157.210) 50.211 ms 50.186 ms *


EnasYorl
Thieves World

join:2001-12-02
West
·Verizon Online DSL


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said by en102 See Profile :

This isn't much different than a tunneled connection. I suspect that gamerail is actually using and encrypted tunnel over someone elses backbone (still multiple links... just not visible). I get the same thing when I VPN into work.
1st hop ~ 60ms (Cisco VPN concentrator).
ICMP on some routers/LB's don't always give you what you want.

If it was a direct point to point link, I'd expect better.
I ran 256kbps frame relay across the country and had that kind of response.

....
Actually it's allot different then a Tunneled connection over your ISP as that's going to take the same route to the VPN server whether your tunneling or not.

This service allows you to get off of the freeway your normally on and get into a carpool lane that puts you onto a cargo plane that bypasses freeways and lands you in another city.

And like the Gamerail rep said »Re: Any "GameRail" (low latency gamer option) users here? the network isn't complete.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

not that I don't expect this to help out some users, however, I never said that it took the same path as my local ISP. Where it does have some advantages, may be those that are on overloaded/under optimimized ISPs (aka middle America Charter) or ISPs that won't shell out for a decent pipe. Most major hub cities should not have an issue with traffic, unless they are throttled. Services such as this give the excuse to throttle, or limit bandwidth.
Personally I hope it never comes to the point where I have to shell out extra $$$ for VoIP or Skype because ISP's that may take advantage of services such as this.


imSOLD

@comcast.net
reply to en102
put a tracert to new york, LA to dallas is not across country
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