vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA | Anon. access to the internet is here to stay
What about library computers, or mall/airport kiosks? It's like saying payphones make it harder to track down criminals. |
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
| said by vpoko  :What about library computers, You just can't walk into a library and use their computer, you should know this.
or mall/airport kiosks? Those airport & mall kiosks like most public kiosks have very limited internet access.
It's like saying payphones make it harder to track down criminals. Well thats because its true.
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raythompsontn
join:2001-01-11
Oliver Springs, TN
| said by BodyBumper :said by vpoko :What about library computers, You just can't walk into a library and use their computer, you should know this. Well, yeh, you can. I do it all the time when I travel. I find an library and put my name on the list to get access. Well, not my name, but a name. None of the libraries that I have used have ever checked my identification. |
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vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA
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said by BodyBumper :You just can't walk into a library and use their computer, you should know this. You sure can. Of course most will ask you to sign up to reserve your time, but you can put whatever name you want there, librarians don't check ID's.
said by BodyBumper :Those airport & mall kiosks like most public kiosks have very limited internet access. I've never seen a kiosk with limited internet, not one that requires payment anyway. Most airport kiosks (which I'm more familiar with than mall kiosks) give you limited access to the net for free. Put a $5 bill in there and you can access the whole internet.
said by BodyBumper :Well thats because its true. My point is that there's no sense whining about it. Lots of things might technically make law enforcement harder, but you have to balance it against peoples' rights. |
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Michieru2
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Miami, FL
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Yeah, try that crap at the Main library in Downtown Miami. There gonna have a giant foot up your ass because they don't allow "random" users to simply come up and sign.
You either have a library card under your name and showing your state identification or license, or your just flat out denied.
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vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA
1 edit | said by Michieru2 :Yeah, try that crap at the Main library in Downtown Miami. There gonna have a giant foot up your ass because they don't allow "random" users to simply come up and sign. You either have a library card under your name and showing your state identification or license, or your just flat out denied. That's because you're talking about Miami, which has one of the highest crime rates in America. Understandably, they're paranoid.
On the other hand, go into any town library, and chances are nobody will even notice you're there. |
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BodyBumper
join:2004-06-21
Beverly Hills, CA
| said by vpoko :said by Michieru2 :Yeah, try that crap at the Main library in Downtown Miami. There gonna have a giant foot up your ass because they don't allow "random" users to simply come up and sign. You either have a library card under your name and showing your state identification or license, or your just flat out denied. That's because you're talking about Miami , which has one of the highest crime rates in America. Understandably, they're paranoid. No, they require us to sign up for an libary card which requires a valid form of ID here as well.
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vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA
| said by BodyBumper :said by vpoko :said by Michieru2 :Yeah, try that crap at the Main library in Downtown Miami. There gonna have a giant foot up your ass because they don't allow "random" users to simply come up and sign. You either have a library card under your name and showing your state identification or license, or your just flat out denied. That's because you're talking about Miami(spoiler) No, they require us to sign up for an libary card which requires a valid form of ID here as well. Ok, I guess it varies. In my old town of Sharon, MA (I've never used the library in my current town) you could just walk in and use the computer.
It's a moot point anyway, pay kiosks sure as heck don't ask you for ID. |
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Warez_Zealot
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join:2006-04-19
japan
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said by BodyBumper :said by vpoko :What about library computers, You just can't walk into a library and use their computer, you should know this. Yeah you can.. You could also walk into a college and use the open access labs without any passwords or people questioning you..
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peter_m
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Canada, QC
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ALL, as in every single library I've been to doesn't require ID, or a password to access the net. Even University LANs are wide open, just stick your ethernet cable in and you're in business. It's a big security hole that needs to be addressed. Same applies for coffee shop WiFi. They should issue passwords based on supplied ID and accurate logs should be kept... well... accurately...
Now the real question is: Do you trust any of these bozos to not fumble and give out the wrong name/ID when authorities come asking for it???? |
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tango65536
join:2001-12-26
Catonsville, MD
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My local county library offers free wi-fi. I guess if you were doing something illegal they could check the security video to identify you. I was using it one Sunday to check stats of a football game while my daughter was getting her books together. No ID presented, or login to get on there wireless network. |
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Doci
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join:2003-02-01
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said by peter_m :Even University LANs are wide open, just stick your ethernet cable in and you're in business. Not at my Uni. The ports are restricted with macs and only the amount that is needed are active. For instance you might be in a room that has a few ethernet ports here and there but if that room has no school owned computer none will work. Of course though, somebody could just go to a room with school computer and clone the mac of a unit connected to a port.
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jp10558
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Willseyville, NY
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said by BodyBumper :said by vpoko :What about library computers, You just can't walk into a library and use their computer, you should know this. Hmmm, I always did in my little town in upstate NY. I seriously doubt anyone would have any idea who has used the PC in the town library in many very small towns across the US.
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batterup
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Netcong, NJ
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said by BodyBumper : You just can't walk into a library and use their computer, you should know this. I can. What do you have to do to use a computer, have a picture ID. Even then the librarian would have to record the time you were on the computer. I assume there is more then one computer so everyone that was on a computer at that time would have to be executed. Computers are the work of the Devil and all that touch them must die. Now do you feel better? |
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